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Offline Graham Whitehead

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1861 Census - Miles/Charlotte Oliver
« on: Wednesday 04 April 12 15:41 BST (UK) »
Is anyone else trying to find Miles Oliver (b. Whitkirk, Yorks 1833) and his new wife Charlotte (Brookes) b. South Littleton, Worcs in 1834 in the 1861 Census?
In 1851 Miles is in Gosford St Coventry,a few doors from his sister Emma (Cleaver)s family.
in 1871 he is in Birmingham as visitor in the house of a shoemaker, who has an interesting visitor from Paris, whereas Charlotte is in Stourbridge with the children.   Miles has died by the 1901 Census, but Charlotte appears in 1911 as widow withe eldest daughter Mary Ann.  I tried looking for the children, but as Miles = Charlotte in St Martin, Birmingham in 1859 and Mary Ann born 1863, that did not work.  I also tried parents.  Miles' father William = Eleanor Brown Hayes
(from Brinklow, Warwicks) at Whitkirk 1833. Miles appears in Brinklow baptism register with a note he was baptised in Goole (Hook nr Goole).  Olivers originated in Yorkshire (said to be Swanland with Cromwell Oliver among them) but William father of Miles and Emma is stated 'navigator' in one record presumably  = navvy or road or canal worker,  Miles and Charlotte can be traced throughout the Census but 1861 draws a blank.  Perhaps they were travelling and not listed?  Miles occupation a Cabinet Chair maker in Birmingham with no suggestion he was a journeyman carpenter.
Warwicks: Whitehead, Allcock, Atkins, Bayley, Beacham, Bilson, Brooks, Cleaver,Farmer,Gilks, Lucas, Kendall, Oliver, Pickard, Shilton, Underhill.
Lincs: Kendall, Clark, Morley,Vincent, Withers, Barlow,Dawson.
Leics. Vincent
Notts: Bardill, Bugg, Morley, Winfield
Dublin: Brooks, Flood.

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Re: 1861 Census - Miles/Charlotte Oliver
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 April 12 15:32 BST (UK) »
According to their marriage entry Miles is living in Kent St. & his father is listed as a contractor.
Charlotte's address at the time was Worcester Wharf & father George is a warehouseman.
As they were married by Banns means he was living there at the time.
All of their children from 1862 ( Mary Ann & Susanna) up to 1871 Sarah were christened at St. Thomas's B'ham.
So they were living in B'ham in 1861.
A journeyman was someone who had received training in a specific trade & as you know he was a carpenters apprentice so therefore a journeyman.It didn't mean someone who travelled.
There's nothing in the 1861 census that you don't know already.

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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: 1861 Census - Miles/Charlotte Oliver
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 April 12 17:01 BST (UK) »
Thank you Jim,
I do have a copy of their marriage entry but I did not know that the children were baptised at St Thomas' Birmingham, so thank you for that.
Warwicks: Whitehead, Allcock, Atkins, Bayley, Beacham, Bilson, Brooks, Cleaver,Farmer,Gilks, Lucas, Kendall, Oliver, Pickard, Shilton, Underhill.
Lincs: Kendall, Clark, Morley,Vincent, Withers, Barlow,Dawson.
Leics. Vincent
Notts: Bardill, Bugg, Morley, Winfield
Dublin: Brooks, Flood.

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Re: 1861 Census - Miles/Charlotte Oliver
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 February 25 12:21 GMT (UK) »
Hello Graham,

I’m coming to this rather late, but is there anything further you’re looking for re Miles and Charlotte.

Charlotte Brookes was a sister of my great grandfather George Brookes, born in Offenham 1829.

I have quite a few dna matches with people who descend from Miles & Charlotte.

Cheers,
Chris