Thomas Ford Acey in Holme Upon Spalding Moor

[rbarkman]

We're trying to get to the bottom of a mysterious entry on the 'old' IGI.  Thomas Ford Acey was baptised 08 Mar 1831 in Humbleton, illegitimate son of Ann Acey, spinster, of Fitling.  Unfortunately, there are several Ann Aceys of the right age, and that makes it hard to go further back, so we're trying to gather any information that could identify Ann.  While at the Treasure House in Beverly on a research trip recently, we looked at fiche copies of the old IGI records, many of which have been now been purged from the on-line database on Family Search.  As well as the baptism above, there is the following entry for Thomas Ford Acey:

Acey, Thomas Ford  @ Relative: James Marchbanks  Male  Birth  06 Mar 1831  Housom

The source is recorded as LDS Film 0183423, which a record of baptisms of the dead, i.e. it reflects a decision made by an LDS Church member rather than an original source.  So, even if we could get access to it (and that seems to require a lot of effort since it is a 'private' LDS record), it may not be very informative.

Fortunately, we were told that "Housom" is an abbreviation for Holme Upon Spalding Moor.  How Thomas might be connected to Holme when it appears his mother was living in Fitling, we're not sure - could James Marchbanks have been his father?  We'd like to check the church records of the CofE, Methodist and Catholic chapels in Holme around 06 Mar 1831 to see what, if anything, appears in them.  Unfortunately, we only discovered this information late on our last day and ran out of time to follow it up.  To make matters more difficult, we're not even sure where the Methodist and Catholic records are kept (if they even exist) - the CofE registers are in the Borthwick Institute.

So, could some kind person check the records if they have access, or point us to where we might find them?

Thanks, Ross

[Treetotal]

Hi Ross...Have you tried looking on Familysearch for a birth for Ann in that timeframe with Father surname Acey and Mother maiden name Ford..as he has the middle name of Ford...that could either be the Thomas's Father's surname or Mother's maiden name.
Just a point to consider.
Carol

[CaroleW]

Hi

There is this marriage

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NL7T-NJW

Could Ann have had another illegitimate child perhaps - see entry below

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NL7T-NJW

[rbarkman]

We've pretty much exhausted the resources of Family Search - I've catalogued every Acey (and various variants) I can find on FS from the 1500s forward to about 1850.  There is no Ann Acey with a mother whose maiden name was Ford.

We know about the marriage of Henry Acey and Ann Ford/Forde in 1780; they had a son John Ford Acey, born 1785.  So there is an established Ford-Acey link.  However, as far as we can tell, John Ford Acey doesn't have a sister named Ann, nor a brother who might have had an Ann, nor a child named Ann.

Was Thomas Ford Acey named after his father (someone with the surname Ford)?  His uncle?  His grandmother?  His aunt?  We don’t know.  We do know that his mother is listed as a spinster, which rules out Acey being her married name (unless someone told fibs - not impossible).  We don't know where she was born, only that she lived in Fitling at the time of his birth.

Which is why we're grasping at the only straw we have, which is the Holme connection.

[bendywendy]

If you go to the Resource board on this area, you will find listings of various records and where they are kept at, some are for HOSM:

Main Board
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,363.0.html

Church Records
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,509800.0.html

Church Records you can access and read online
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,532112.0.html

Catholic Records etc
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,533641.0.html

Methodist, Baptists, Meeting Houses, Quakers etc
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,523735.0.html

bendywendy

[alpinecottage]

Have you seen the old family search site which gives Thomas Ford Acey's parents as Thomas Ford Ford b c 1805 in Humbleton, Yorks and mother Nancy Acey b c1809 in Humbleton.  The names and addresses of the two submitters, a Mr Norris and Mr Booth, are given. 

[bendywendy]

Found this on Familysearch.org  - the old system -   
I think the word Housom could now be Halsham, again you need to see the registers for both places.
I cannot think that this is a coincidence of names, date and place
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Thomas Acey (AFN: 1BZQ-9F0)

Birth:    6 Mar 1831    Humbleton, Yorks, England   
Christening:    8 Mar 1831    Humbleton, Yorks, England   
Death:    21 Jul 1899    England
Parents
 Thomas Ford FORD (AFN: 1PQW-QFX)   Family
  Nancy ACEY (AFN: 1PQW-QG5)
Spouse:    Mary BROWN (AFN: 1BZQ-9G6)   Family
  Marriage:    4 Dec 1851    Halsham Parish, England

Submitters, you could write to them for more information to see if this is the same person you seek

EVERETT BOOTH   WILLIAM NORRIS   

Halsham Parish is situated between Withernsea and Burstwick, East Yorkshire on what is now B1362.
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Thomas Ford Acey
   Birth:    06 MAR 1831     Housom, , Yorkshire, England
   Christening:
   Death:    21 JUL 1899     
   Burial:
Film N:    183423    Page No:    433        Ref No:    15568

This Film No is for:

Baptisms for the dead, 1893-1943; heir indexes, 1893-1960
HEIR INDEXES list a family representative at whose instance the baptisms were performed. There are heir indexes in individual vols., 1893-1923; and in separate vols, 1923-1954. The indexes in vols. 1893-1923 were filmed separately as well as with the vols. of which they are a part. .
BAPTISM REGISTERS contain name, birthdate, birthplace of the deceased and the names of the heir and proxy. . BAPTISM CARDS contain the same data as the registers. The baptism card is actually a photocopy.
An endowment date was added to the card, making it a baptism and endowment card. To see these cards, look for "Endowments for the dead, 1893-1970" in the author/title catalog under: "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Salt Lake Temple;" or in the topical catalog under: "Temple records - Salt Lake Temple." . BAPTISM CERTIFICATES/STATEMENTS consist of heir and proxy lists and statements certifying that the listed baptisms have been performed. The lists include a number referring to the baptism & endowment card.
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Thomas Ford Acey
Birth:    
06 MAR 1831     Housom, , Yorkshire, England
Christening:
Death:    21 JUL 1899     
Burial:
Film No:    184091        Page NO:    346        Ref No:    12208

This Film No is for:
Endowments for the dead, 1893-1970; heir indexes, 1924-1956; baptisms for the dead, 1941-1970, 1893-1970
HEIR INDEXES list the oldest male person to be baptized into the L.D.S. Church as the index term for the sealings of his ancestors. This system was not very accurate because heirs often had common ancestors. Two families descending from different lines of the same person might designate different heirs for that person. Heir indexes were kept with each vol., 1893-1924; and kept separately, 1924-1956.
ENDOWMENTS REGISTERS contain ordinance data and vital data on the endowed individual. From 1913-1941, they were kept separately for males and females.
BAPTISM AND ENDOWMENTS CARDS contain ordinance data for a single individual on each card. They include baptism as well as endowment information. Early cards were kept in separate files for males and females. Beginning in 1949 the two files were merged. This file contains patron submitted endowments. Beginning in the 1960s many names for endowments were generated by the controlled extraction program. For these endowments through 1970, look under "Endowments for the dead, controlled extraction, 1962-1970," in the author/title catalog. Extraction batches prior to 1970 were given a "P" number. Beginning in 1970 they were given a "C" number. For these batches look under "Endowments and sealings for the dead, controlled extraction" in the author/title catalog. Controlled extraction endowments can also be found in the topical catalog by either of these titles under "Temple records - Salt Lake Temple."
In the 1970s the record of patron submitted sealings was divided into different files reflecting different processing procedures: 1) Family file--endowments cleared by the Genealogical Department and reserved for family members to perform at the temple, 2) Patron temple file--same as family file except the names were not reserved for family members, 3) Rush processing--family file given priority in processing, 4) Manual processing--endowments that could not be processed by the computer system for various reasons, 5) Temple originated records--endowments processed from patron records presented at the temple, 6) Family entry--endowments submitted on family group sheets. Look for these records in the author/title catalog under: 1) Endowments for the dead, family file, 1970-. 2) Endowments and sealings for the dead, patron temple file, 1970-. 3) Endowments for the dead, rush processing, 1976-1981. 4) Endowments for the dead, manual processing, 1970-1981. 5) Temple originated records, 1970-. 6) Endowments for the dead, family entry, 1979-1981.
Endowments, 1893-Sep 1969 are indexed by the name of the deceased person in the Temple Index Bureau File (TIB), a card index available on microfilm. Endowments after Sep 1969 are indexed in the International Genealogical Index (IGI), a microfiche index available in the main library and many of its branches. .
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bendywendy

[bendywendy]

continued....

Another entry for him with parents Thomas Ford & Nancy Acey with same info but Ref No 457553 and this refers to:

Sealings for the dead, couples and children (includes some living spouses and children) 1943-1970; heir indexes, 1943-1965
No circulation to family history centers. Access to these records requires patron show proof that they may include his/her own lineage. Must show temple recommend or bishop's letter to use material. Photocopying not allowed.
HEIR INDEXES list the oldest male person to be baptized into the L.D.S. Church as the index term for the sealings of his ancestors. This system was not very accurate because heirs often had common ancestors. Two families descending from differnt lines of the same person might designate different heirs for that person. .
SEALING SHEETS are family group records with an appended column on the right margin listing the proxies who performed the ordinances. The sheets are arranged chronologically by sealing date. .
This file contains patron submitted sealings. Beginning in the 1960s, many names for sealings of children to parents were generated by the controlled extraction program. For these sealings through 1971, look under "Sealings for the dead, children to parents, controlled extraction, 1967-1971," in the author/title catalog. Extraction batches prior to 1970 were given a P number. Beginning in 1970 they were given a C number. For these batches look under "Endowments and sealings for the dead, controlled extraction," in the author/title catalog. Controlled extraction temple work can also be found in the topical catalog for either of these titles under "Temple records - Salt Lake Temple."
In the 1970s the record of patron submitted sealings was divided into different files reflecting different processing procedures: 1) Family file--sealings cleared by the Genealogical Department and reserved for family members to perform at the temple, 2) Patron temple file--same as family file except the names were not reserved for family members, 3) Rush processing--family file given priority in processing, 4) Manual processing--sealings that could not be processed by the computer system for various reasons, 5) Temple originated records--sealings processed from patron records presented at the temple, 6) Family entry--sealings submitted on family group sheets.
Look for these records in the author/title catalog under: 1) Sealings for the dead, family file, 1970- . 2) Endowments and sealings for the dead, patron temple file, 1970- . 3) Sealings for the dead, rush processing, 1976-1981. 4) Sealings for the dead, manual processing, 1970-1981. 5) Temple originated records, 1970- . 6) Sealings for the dead, family entry, 1979-1981.


I find all this rather boggling  

bendywendy

[bendywendy]

umh after some coggertating and some goggling I think what those references mean is that someone in the family of Thomas Ford Acey became a Latter Day Saints Pioneer..

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/Guide/LDSRec20.asp

Scroll down to Temple Records

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Thomas Ford Acey & Mary Brown had 9 children and one of them, Sarah Jane Acey 1855 Burton Pidsea Died 1932 Salt Lake City.
Sarah Jane Acey married Thomas William Walker @ Hull 9 Aug 1872.
They appear to have had a child died and buried at Salt Lake City 1887 2yrs of age.
The record shows 8 of 9 of their children were born Yorks/Lancs 1874-1885 and a 9th born 1891 Utah.

I think due to the complexity of the LDS rules it will be extremely difficult to get any further info, makes one wonder what info there is about him 

bendywendy