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Thomas WEBB and son James
« on: Thursday 19 April 12 02:52 BST (UK) »
I'm looking for:

James Webb born circa 1793. I think he was baptised in Berks.

He may have been involved in with Arborfield Mill, of which Thomas WEBB and John LOVE were the employers in June 1795 till 1810. So I'm wondering if Thomas WEBB was his father.

Can someone help please?
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Re: Thomas WEBB and son James
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 April 12 11:05 BST (UK) »
There is a James bap 22 Feb 1794 in Wokingham Berks but parents James and Jane.
Thomas could have been an uncle perhaps.
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Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
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Re: Thomas WEBB and son James
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 April 12 12:29 BST (UK) »
Thank you, Milliepede.

I should work backwards, I know, and John WEBB was born in 1827 in High Wycombe, Bucks. acc. to a Surrey census. But I was told that there wasn't a baptismal record for him there.

I wonder if you'd mind looking for him, if you can, please? That way I can see if the James you mention is the right one. I have his father as James but don't know who his mother was. If it's inconvenient, please don't worry.
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Re: Thomas WEBB and son James
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 April 12 13:02 BST (UK) »
All other census he seems to be in Surry but possible for 1841 in Buckinghamshire. 
John aged 14 with Elizabeth 5 - Thomas 55 - Elizabeth 50. 
Looks like occupation for Thomas carpenter which might fit your needs.
Birth year for Thomas 1786 but as we know give or take for 1841.
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Re: Thomas WEBB and son James
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 April 12 07:03 BST (UK) »
Thank you again Millepede.

Trouble is, there's a Surrey 1841 census which has him aged 15 in Send with father James and wife Ann. I think I must be on the wrong track – I need to find a father James and wife Ann in, probably, Bucks. I guess I should go to the Bucks list to ask.

I think, though, that James WEBB could have married a Mrs Anne Webb in Burnham, Bucks. about 1821. That would fit, I think.

So complicated. My brain doesn't cope too well with all these ramifications.

Thanks, Millepede.

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Re: Thomas WEBB and son James
« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 April 12 12:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Millipede,
I think you need to work backwards slowly with this as you said.
Do you have John/Rhodas Marriage Cert to confirm his Fathers name and Occp?
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Re: Thomas WEBB and son James
« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 April 12 13:09 BST (UK) »
I'v had a look around on Family Trees and also Census.

Only c 1821 Marriage I can find is;
James WEBB/Dinah DORRALL, 12 August 1821, Wycombe, Buckingham
Both Single

1841 Census in High Wycombe;
James 35, Paper Maker
Dinah 35
Susanna 15
George 5
William 4
Edwin 1
Sarah 2weeks
All born in County
There is plenty of room here for Children born c 1821-1836 to have left home.

1851 Census James is born c 1802, Wycombe and Dina c 1803

I did notice in the 1851 Census John is a Paper Maker. He is born c 1822 on this Census.
HO107/1594/40/24

1861 James WEBB 1802 is mistranscibed as born c 1822.

Bit of a problem as the James/Ann with Son John c 1825 in Send, Surrey is a Paper Maker also :P
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Re: Thomas WEBB and son James
« Reply #7 on: Monday 23 April 12 05:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Millipede,
I think you need to work backwards slowly with this as you said.
Do you have John/Rhodas Marriage Cert to confirm his Fathers name and Occp?

Hi Trish1120

Yes, I've got John WEBB's marriage certificate to Rhoda STEVENS. His occupation was Paper maker. His father was James WEBB and his occupation was also Paper maker. They were married in Woking, Surrey 10th Feb. 1846.

I think it was this James WEBB, John's father, who moved from BKM to Surrey to work at Gresham Press. So it's that James WEBB's (John's father) marriage, and parents, which tie me up in knots  :-\
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