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St Giles, Cheadle
« on: Friday 04 May 12 23:42 BST (UK) »
Hi, I'm looking for a wedding held at St Giles, Cheadle in 1845. But are there 2 St Giles' in Cheadle?

I thought I was looking for the Catholic church, but it seems St Giles' Catholic church didn't formally open til 1846. So would the wedding I'm looking for be at the parish church? As it's listed on the Staffordshire BMD site would it be the parish church not the Catholic one anyway?

If so, does anyone have any copies of records to hand, or could anyone do a lookup for me please?

It's Thomas Cope and Hannah Elks, in Q4 1845.

Many thanks,

Deirdre
 
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: St Giles, Cheadle
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 May 12 11:56 BST (UK) »
Deirdre - looking at the coverage pages on StaffsBMD for the RC St Giles they list 1916-2005; the C of E version says 1837-2005 so it should be that. Sorry can't help with the lookup though
http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/marrcov.php

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Re: St Giles, Cheadle
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 May 12 14:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks; having found the wedding, I googled St Giles Cheadle and found the Catholic church. Hadn't checked the coverage list though sorry :-[ 
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: St Giles, Cheadle
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 May 12 15:51 BST (UK) »
Deirdre - if you're at all interested in architecture there's a lot out there about St Giles RC as it was designed by Pugin and is highly regarded - it pops up on TV for that reason. I have to admit before your query I didn't know the C of E church was also St Giles (how to confuse)!


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Re: St Giles, Cheadle
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 05 May 12 17:08 BST (UK) »
By coincidence I was in Cheadle to day (hunting ancestors) and visited both the Catholic St Giles and the C of E parish church St Giles the Abbot. Very confusing having two churches of virtually the same name. My Guess would be that the marriage took place at the Parish church given the dates
Stanton of Stafford
Bourne of Stoke-on-Trent
Smith of Stoke-on-Trent
Philpott of Pontesbury
Pugh of Worthen & Pontesbury

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Re: St Giles, Cheadle
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 05 May 12 17:34 BST (UK) »
Deirdre - if you're at all interested in architecture there's a lot out there about St Giles RC as it was designed by Pugin and is highly regarded - it pops up on TV for that reason. I have to admit before your query I didn't know the C of E church was also St Giles (how to confuse)!

I can't say I'm interested in architecture but had a good read of the church website and its history. Definitely on our list of places to visit when we have time (or retired!).

By coincidence I was in Cheadle to day (hunting ancestors) and visited both the Catholic St Giles and the C of E parish church St Giles the Abbot. Very confusing having two churches of virtually the same name. My Guess would be that the marriage took place at the Parish church given the dates

Hope you had a good day! Shame about the marriage though - it would have been nice to tell my mum that her great grandparents were married in the RC church (the family was defintely Catholic... their eldest child was Thomas Augustine and his children were Percy Thomas, Winifred Mary, Alban Leo and Dorothy Agnes).

Just another confusing link in family history!

Deirdre
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: St Giles, Cheadle
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 05 May 12 17:53 BST (UK) »
If the family were Catholic then they may have married in a chapel (or whatever preceeded the RC St Giles) and merely registered the marriage at the Parish church. I have non-conformist ancestors who are down as having married at the parish church but on getting the certificate it says Chapel and only registered at the church
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Smith of Stoke-on-Trent
Philpott of Pontesbury
Pugh of Worthen & Pontesbury

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Re: St Giles, Cheadle
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 05 May 12 20:05 BST (UK) »
OK thanks. I guess I may need to wait til I get the marriage certificate then.... Buying certificates slowly, for a different branch at the moment.

None seem straightforward, have Catholics, Welsh Baptists, independent chapel, register offices and no record of marriages despite what the cenuses say  ::)
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....