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Gransha asylum
« on: Sunday 03 June 12 01:50 BST (UK) »
Hi there,
I am trying to find out about an ancestor who died in the Gransha asylum in 1907. I have his death certificate but am trying to find admission notes, doctors notes etc. I did get  in touch with PRONI but they could not help me. Where do I go next? Any help who be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Gransha asylum
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 03 June 12 08:59 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat. Gransha (Londonderry Lunatic Asylym) is in County Derry not Antrim so I've moved your post from Antrim Resources & Offers.
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Re: Gransha asylum
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 June 12 00:20 BST (UK) »
Hi, Sorry for putting it in the wrong place.

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Re: Gransha asylum
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 June 12 07:30 BST (UK) »
No problem. When you say PRONI couldn't help exactly what do you mean? Their e-catalogue should show if what, if any, records they hold for the Londonderry Lunatic Asylum.
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Re: Gransha asylum
« Reply #4 on: Monday 04 June 12 11:41 BST (UK) »
I was in touch with a Michelle Kelly from PRONI in 2009 telling me that Western Trust transferred all their records to them. Michelle also stated "we do have a large collection for Gransha which was transferred to us 3-4 years ago but there are a few gaps. It is most likely that the records that are missing do not exist any longer".
She did however did a detailed search of the relevant archives and could confirm that she found my great uncle, a Samuel McCandless and that his registration number was 4157. He was listed in the 1901 census but died in Gransha in 1907 aged 33. Michelle could not find his case notes, admission details, committal papers but I managed to get his death cert.
The poor man was in there for 6 years and 6 years of paper work has disappeared. Very frustrating.

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 June 12 11:58 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately it does look like the records don't exist any longer.

Samuel McCandless wasn't from the Coleraine/Macosquin area by any chance?
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Re: Gransha asylum
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 June 12 23:07 BST (UK) »
Yes he was. His father was a David McCandless. Samuel is buried in the family plot in the Coleraine cemetery. Since Samuel died in Gransha, his father must have had his body transported to Coleraine. I was hoping to do a story on Samuel, but with the missing papers no go now. His reason for being in Gransha was mania due to alcohol.

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 June 12 23:14 BST (UK) »
Have a lot of McCandless information at home which I'll check when I'm back in about 10 days or so.
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Re: Gransha asylum
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 05 June 12 06:54 BST (UK) »
That would be fantastic! Thank you very much.
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