Baylis/Hill/Bradbury

[deberajeff]

I am searching for info on Lydia Mariah Bayliss Hill Bradbury
She was born ca. 1870's father I think was William Bayliss
she married Owen Hill -possibly George Owen Hill-
Owen and Lydia had 4 children Rose,Florence(Flo),Frank and
Gladys Amy b. appx.1906-
After Owen Hill died Lydia married Mr Bradbury-don't know his
first name
Mr Bradbury had a son named Walter ,who married Auntie Rose
They had 2 children Joan and Ennice both born in the 1930's
Florence married Alfred Charker-no children
Frank married and had 2 boys-one was Keith
My grandmother -Gladys married Walter English -they had 1
daughter,Averil Joan,my mum.They moved to the Norfolk area
after WW2.They lived in Oxford for a while @10 Weyland Rd
Headington.
 -My mum said they were all from the Oxford area
Could some one please do a lookup for me -and I would love to
 know if any of the younger family is still around
Thank you ,
Regards,
       Debbie:)

[HarryW]

Debbie,

Is this Lydia ?

1871
St Clement Oxford
Headington
RG10/1435
ED 14
Folio 111
Page 34
can't make out the address

William BAYLISS, Head, Mar, 25 ?, Builders Labourer, ?? Banbury
Frances BAYLISS, Wife, Mar, 22,   , Oxford
William BAYLISS, Son, Un, 4,  , Cowley Oxon
Lydia BAYLISS, Daur, U, 1,  , Oxford

Harry

[HarryW]

If the previous is Lydia, I can then find the family (minus Lydia) in 1891 and Frances plus two children in 1901.

This looks like Lydia and Owen marriage:

Oxford 1894 September Quarter

Owen George Hill
Lydia Maria Bayliss
Vol 3a Page 1472

Run out of time now, but will have a look for later records.
Let me know whether you want the info fopr the rest of the family for 1891/1901

Harry

[deberajeff]

Hi Harry,
That would be great if you could provide info on the rest of the family.
This does look like the Lydia I am searching for -my mother lived in
 Headington at the age of 14 -so possibly close to the grandparents
or at least Lydia -I am not sure when her husband died or when
she married Mr Bradbury.Anything you could find would be great .
Thank you so much for your help----
                                        Warmest regards,
                                                       Debbie

[HarryW]

Debbie,

Here are the BAYLISS family in 1891 (all have BAYLISS surname):
RG12/1165
St Clement Oxford
9 Bath Square ?? (difficult to make out)

William, Head, Mar, 43, Labourer (General), Oxon Banbury
Frances A, Wife, Mar, 42, 
William, Son, S, 24, Labourer (General)
Albert, Son, S, 18, Printer
Ada, Daur, S, 15, Domestic Servant General
Edward, Son,  , 11, Scholar
Florence, Daur,  , 9, Scholar
Gertrude, Daur,  , 7, Scholar
Mabel, Daur,  , 4, Scholar
Beatrice, Daur,  , 6m

All are born Oxford except William snr

in 1901:
Mortlake St Marys Surrey
RG13/678
96 Whitehart Lane

Emma BENTLEY, Head, Wid, 53, Dressmaker, Hants West Meaon (Meon ?)
Emma E BENTLEY, Daur, S, 25,  , London Battersea
Albert W BENTLEY, Son, S, 21, Clerk in Office, London Battersea
Maggie E BENTLEY, Daur, S, 12,  , London Hammersmith
Frances BAYLISS, Visitor, M, 52,  , Oxford Oxford
Albert BAYLISS, Visitor, 28, can't make out profession, Oxford Oxford
Florence BAYLISS, Visitor, 19,  , Oxford Oxford.

I've now found William and the remainder of the children in 1901:

RG13/1380
St Clements
3 Parsons Gardens

William, Head, Mar, 53, Bricklayers Labourer, Oxon Banbury
Mabel, Daur, S, 14, Housemaid Domestic, Oxon Oxford
Beatrice, Daur, S, 10, At School, Oxon Oxford
Frederick RALPH, Boarder, S, 16, Photographers Shop Assistant, Oxon Old Headington

Sorry, I can't trace Lydia at all.


Regards
Harry

[HarryW]

Debbie,

I've found a little bit more for you:
1881 census
RG11/1499
St Ebb Oxford

John E HILL, Head, Mar, 35, General Labourer, Northamptonshire Wooton
Jane HILL, Wife, Mar, 32, Employed in Paper Mill Rag Cutter, Warwickshire Birmingham
John HILL, Son,   , Farm Labourer, Middlesex Hampsetad
Owen G HILL, Son,   ,12, Scholar, Middlesex Hampstead
Elizabeth HILL, Daur,  ,11, Scholar, Oxon Summerstown
Andrew HILL, Son,  , 1,  , Oxon Summerstown.

This looks like the death of Owen:

Owen George HILL
Headington 1907 September Quarter
Vol 3a Page 448

Your search for BRADBURY is now beyond the census available on line.

Incidentally, I've tried to find Lydia or George in the 1891 and 1901 census to no avail.

Regards
Harry

[Razorsedge]

Hi Debbie,

Lydia Maria Bayliss was my great-grandmother! I'll leave you to figure out what kind of relative that makes us.

I have a copy of Lydia's birth certificate which shows she was born in St Clement on December 9, 1868 while the family was living on Caroline Street. Her father was William Bayliss, a mason's laborer of Neithrop and her mother was Frances Amelia Dawson, daughter of George Dawson. They may have been related to the Dawson family which once owned half of St Clement and set up the Dawson's Charity in the 16th Century.

That's about all I have on Lydia's ancestry so far. I suspect her grandfather was another William Bayliss (what's with all these Williams?) who married Maria Haynes of Adderbury, but I can't document that yet.

The date on Lydia's birth certificate doesn't quite jive with her ages in the 1871 and 1881 censuses. Pretty much everything else Harry posted here matches what I have discovered and adds to it (thanks so much Harry!) I believe Lydia had another son named William Alfred who was baptized in St Clement on December 10, 1865 and died a few days later. He was buried there on December 21 of same year.

On July 7, 1889, Lydia gave birth to a son, apparently out of wedlock. She named him William Herbert Bayliss and that is my grandfather. I have his birth certificate which names no father. Lydia is described as a domestic servant of St Clement, living at the Headington Workhouse ("affectionately" known as The Laurels) where the birth took place.  A later document that serves as a birth certificate substitute for William Herbert Hill, names the father as Owen George Hill.

Lydia married Owen George at the Sommertown registry office and lived for a while at 8 Prospect Street in St Clement. I have 3 children listed for them - Frank, Rose, and Florence Frances - but I was told there may be another daughter. For some obscure reason, Florence was known to us as Aunty Jenny. Go figure. I remember meeting her only once when she was at the Wynfield Hospital in Headington for a hip replacement.  My older sister Jennifer was named after Aunty Jenny (I couldn't make this stuff up!) and apparently they were very close. I'm wondering whether Gladys was known to us as Aunt Rose for some equally obscure reason. I guess they were actually my dad's half aunts or something like that. My dad told me that one of the Hills moved to east Anglia and one married a man named English.

Lydia married her second husband, Walter Bradbury, on February 2, 1922. He was a bookmaker. They had no children together. She dies in Headington in November 1939 and he died sometime before December 1939. My dad remembers Lydia a little as Granny Hill.

William Herbert kept his mother's name of Bayliss all his life. He was in the King's Royal Rifles and married Elinor Priscilla Field on July 24, 1915 at Cowley St. John. They had 11 children, one of which was my dad. Two died early.

That's about it. Let me know if you have any questions.

God bless you my cousin!

Ray

[Razorsedge]

Sorry, I meant Lydia had another brother named William Alfred, not another son. Slip of the fingers!

[deberajeff]

Ray,
Just came back to the posts from last year-sorry if I did not answer them to you .I was in a automobile accident last year and have been sort of  in lala land ,I guess you could say.Ok now though.
I will go through all of the info today and try to sort it out .
I spoke to my mum last night-Lydia was her grandmother-she said Lydia died on Nov 23,1939 and was buried at Rose Hill cemetary,Oxford, on Nov 27,1939
Will e mail again later
Regards,
Debbie     deberajeff@hotmail.com