LMA lookup - Kennington marriage (1826)

[Alexander.]

I would be eternally grateful if someone could do a lookup for me at the LMA. I would be very willing to reimburse any copying costs, etc.  I am trying to obtain a copy of the following marriage register:

Kennington St. Mark
03 Jun 1826 - Edward Butcher & Mary Ann Hill

Ancestry.co.uk have the images for the Bishops' Transcripts, but I need to see the register with original signatures. I need it to compare signatures with a later marriage, as described in my other thread:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,600900.0.html

Thanks,
Alexander

[Tsu]

This record is on Ancestry.  What did you want to know?

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
Here's a transcript
Edward Butcher of this parish and Mary Ann Hills of this parish where married by banns 3.6.1826.Both signed.
Witnesses signed William Hill(s) and Caroline Charlotte Noa(t or s)
Ciderdrinker
Ps there are also a Clara Harriet ,Thomas and Ann Hill marrying in the same parish around this time.Also a Elizabeth Butcher but nothing extra on the witnesses.

[anpefa1]

hello alexander,

bmd's are no longer available at the lma, they have been moved to newcastle.

there may be something available at the british library where i shall make an enquiry soon.


tony

[Gaie]

Hi

http://www.aim25.ac.uk/cgi-bin/vcdf/detail?coll_id=15592&inst_id=118&nv1=search&nv2=

If you scroll down to the Allied Materials section, it says that the LMA don't hold the marriage registers for Baps/Marrs 1825-1837 and Burs 1825-46; they only seem to have film of BTs 

Lambeth Archives only hold Marrs 1839-52 - see Page 62 of the Archive Guide:

http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/LeisureCulture/LocalHistory/ArchiveGuide0505.htm

It's not looking good.

I have a similar problem with a few ancestors who married at St Mary, Lewisham; the registers were badly damaged in a fire; the BTs survive, and at some point somebody has transcribed what they can from the original parish parts, but it would have been nice to see the original signatures.

KR
Gaie

[Gaie]

To confirm the above, from the LMA site:

http://search.lma.gov.uk/scripts/mwimain.dll/2295/8/4/4231?RECORD

KR
Gaie

[smudwhisk]

bmd's are no longer available at the lma, they have been moved to newcastle.

Rather premature of them since ancestry still have some large gaps in their coverage, even though the LMA has the registers.  In some cases whole registers are missing.   If you try and approach ancestry about when they are likely to put the missing items online, you basically get told to get lost.

[Gaie]

bmd's are no longer available at the lma, they have been moved to newcastle.

Yes, I'm not sure what to make of this 

Are you saying that all parish bmds, whether original books or films, have been removed from the LMA to Newcastle so are not available to view in London?  Why?  I think we should be told   

KR
Gaie

[Alexander.]

Thanks everyone. I have the details from the Bishops' Transcripts (on Ancestry), but unfortunately because it is a transcript it does not contain the original signatures. For that reason I am unable to compare signatures with a later marriage which is my last desperate attempt to show whether they are the same man.

I assumed that since the BTs were held at the LMA, the originals would be as well, which is obviously not true. I did email the LMA so with any luck they will be able to advise me on the whereabouts of the originals - if they survive.

Cheers,
Alexander