Completed-Thanks-Thomas Jaques-Huguenot ancestry

[frogspawn4]

Hi

I have managed to get my Jaques family line back to Thomas b 1761 - with the help of the Jaques website.

Family history says that Thomas was born in Grittleton- son of a Huguenot farmer - but we have not been able to find a birth record there. However there is a birth record in Alderton - 3 miles from Grittleton.Mother and father named as William and Hester.

Also a marriage of a William Jaques and Hester Little - same year - also in Alderton.
There have been Jaques's in Alderton for quite a considerable time - earliest baptism on A..Cy is 1650.
The names are all ones found in the family from Thomas b 1761 onwards.

How do I link my Thomas back to William & Hester?  I can get to the Chippenham Records Office, but do not know what documents I should be looking for.

Any thoughts and advice would be very welcome.

Jay

[frogspawn4]

Hi again

I forgot to add that I downloaded  the will of Hester Jaques(Little) fron TNA but can only read a little of it. It does mention a Thomas Jaques but can't decipher in what context or if it links to my Thomas.
She is also receiving an annuity from the Earl of Ailsbury - why would she be receiving this?

Jay

[west]

Thomas was born in Alderton, just in case you do not have the details I will list them.

Alderton Parish Baptisms 1605-1837.

16 Aug 1761. Thomas Jaques. Son of William & Hester.

The earliest William baptised there is in 1683.

Baptism for Hester.

13 March 1739/0 Hester Little. Dau of John & Anne.

Hope this Helps.

West.

[frogspawn4]

Hi West

Thanks. I do have these details.

I just can't find any records that link this Thomas to my Thomas who was in London by 1789 when he got married.. I was hoping that this Thomas's father or mother's will would have the link to London - but I don't think it does. I'm still having difficulty reading Hester's will. I can't find a will for William.

I was also hoping that someone might know a reason why Hester would have been receiving an allowance from the Earl of Ailsbury.

It's definately time for me to go the records office and see if they have some idea's where i can look to confirm these two Thomas's are one and the same.


Thanks again

Jay

[alpinecottage]

Hi again

I forgot to add that I downloaded  the will of Hester Jaques(Little) fron TNA but can only read a little of it. It does mention a Thomas Jaques but can't decipher in what context or if it links to my Thomas.
She is also receiving an annuity from the Earl of Ailsbury - why would she be receiving this?

Jay

Are you sure it mentions Thomas Jaques - I think the two Thomases mentioned are her grandson Thomas Norris and Thomas Hayes who was her great nephew.

I think this Hester was firstly the wife of a Mr Norris, then the wife of Mr Jaques.  You would need to research her history to begin to work out why she was receiving an annuity from the Earl of Ailsbury.  Perhaps Mr Norris died in the service of the Earl and his widow (Hester) was awarded an annuity.

Am I right in thinking that the earliest record you have that definitely relates to your Thomas Jaques is his marriage in London in 1789?  There were many Jaques in London around this time - he could have been London born.

[frogspawn4]

Hi

I know that he marries Mary Phillips at St Andrew,Holborn in 1789.
The Jaques Company website states that he came from Grittleton and went to London when he was 15, but quite a few of his descendants have looked for a baptism, and can't find one. The closest is this Alderton one, and Alderton is about three miles from Grittleton. This is why I am trying to link the Alderton Thomas with my Thomas.

I've had another look at the will and agree that there are Norris's mentioned, and the other Thomas does look like 'Hayes' now that you point it out.

Many thanks for your help.

Jay

[west]

Don't know if this marriage I found between a Thomas Jaques & Hester Norris will make sense.

13 May 1776. Thomas Jaques. Bachelor out of Wiltshire. By Licence. Hester Norris. Marlborough St Peters. Thomas is of St Sepulchre. London.
No status given for Hester.
West.

[alpinecottage]

Hi

I know that he marries Mary Phillips at St Andrew,Holborn in 1789.
The Jaques Company website states that he came from Grittleton and went to London when he was 15, but quite a few of his descendants have looked for a baptism, and can't find one. The closest is this Alderton one, and Alderton is about three miles from Grittleton. This is why I am trying to link the Alderton Thomas with my Thomas.

Why don't you email the Jaques Company and ask where they have got their information from?

If the family was Wiltshire-based Huguenot, they may have taken Thomas to London to be baptised in a Huguenot Church there, particularly if they had London connections . There were 23 Huguenot churches in London by 1700, probably not all the registers have survived.  He may have been any age up to adult when he was baptised.

[frogspawn4]

Hi all

I think you've all opened up more questions than answers!!!

The marriage that I had found was William Jaques and Hester Little May 1761, but the marriage that  West has found between Thomas Jaques and Hester Norris May 1776 is probably the one linked to the will that I had found, given that some of the beneficiaries in the will were Norris's( thanks to alpinecottage's input)


Given the baptism of Thomas b 1761 says his parents were William and Hester, then the will that I have is not the one that I am looking for. It is the will of the Hester married to Thomas.

Ooh, my head hurts!!!

Back to the drawing board I think.

Thank you all for your comments and finds - I think they have clarified a few things for me - even if I am not further forward (or should that be backwards)

Jay