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Death of Eliza Nunn/Walter
« on: Friday 22 June 12 23:09 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

I'm looking as i'm completely baffled by the death of the person noted above.

She was born on 2/2/1847 in newington, and married Jesse Walter in 1874.

What I can't grasp is when She died. Jesse's death certificate (which I have) in 1918 - suggests it's been acknoleged by a "Lucy" Walter - but i'm not sure if it's even the same person.

Using the Free BMD's I had some that came up in the 1920's - but i'm not convinced. Does anyone know if a lucy/eliza/what the heck name was used on a death record around 1900-1935 (to cover all bases) for her?

Btw, he was a Coachman, but I don't know what she did.

Any help would be welcome :P

Thanks
Rich

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Re: Death of Eliza Nunn/Walter
« Reply #1 on: Friday 22 June 12 23:22 BST (UK) »
Have you followed her through the censuses? Is she on the 1911?
As a starting point this is them in 1881?

RG11/172/44/31

6 Robert Terrace Hampstead

Jessie Walter 40 coachman born Reading Berkshire
Eliza Walter 30 born Bury St Edmunds Suffolk
Herbert Walter 6 Bury St Edmunds
Jessie Walter 4 Hampstead
Ernest Walter  1 month Hampstead

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Re: Death of Eliza Nunn/Walter
« Reply #2 on: Friday 22 June 12 23:31 BST (UK) »
Alternatively is your Jesse the 31-yr old domestic coachman (born Farringdon Berks) in service in Marylebone in 1881?

RG11/165/78/13.


This one has a father Elijah (according to the 1851 census of Farringdon, when Jesse was 11 months old) which matches the Jesse Walter/Eliza Nunn marriage details.

His age is right for the 68 yr old Jesse Walter who died in Paddington in 1918.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Death of Eliza Nunn/Walter
« Reply #3 on: Friday 22 June 12 23:36 BST (UK) »
Yep, i got them - up to 1881 easily.

Jesse changed his name to Henry - hence how I found him in 1891.... living in paddington. After 1891 - until 1918 - im drawing a complete blank on Eliza, and his wereabouts - the only clue I ever had was from Jessie (Jesse's daughter) dying in January 1900 - and him appearing there.

anything else is just...well no idea.


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Re: Death of Eliza Nunn/Walter
« Reply #4 on: Friday 22 June 12 23:40 BST (UK) »
Adding if anyone can find a census entry that matches Eliza and Jesse/Henry in 1901 or 1911 - would be doing me an enormous favour.....it's been doing my head in!

I don't know if Eliza died in the 1890s - or the 1920s - it's baffling as I haven't got any leads.

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Re: Death of Eliza Nunn/Walter
« Reply #5 on: Friday 22 June 12 23:42 BST (UK) »
Jessie snr has now become Henry and is the same age as the 1881 census. He has also changed his birthplace.
1891 RG12/4/142/39
Henry Walter 39 coachman Hereford herefordshire
Eliza wife 38 Bury St Edmunds
Herbert 16 Bury St Edmunds
Jessie 15 dau Hampstead
Ernest 10 Hampstead.

Eliza's birth date 1851/1853

If she is inconsistent with her birthdate it will make it harder to find her death record.

Hi avm228. Does that image say unmarried for Jesse?  Rich's Jesse was married by then.

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Re: Death of Eliza Nunn/Walter
« Reply #6 on: Friday 22 June 12 23:44 BST (UK) »
Alright we have the correct Jess(i)e/Henry.

No I can't find Eliza in the later censuses either as yet.

Have you tried to link a Lucy walter to Jesse/Henry?

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Re: Death of Eliza Nunn/Walter
« Reply #7 on: Friday 22 June 12 23:45 BST (UK) »
Lucy Walter is a key - as that was what was put on the Death record - but I couldn't find anything that matched.

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Re: Death of Eliza Nunn/Walter
« Reply #8 on: Friday 22 June 12 23:48 BST (UK) »
I had one (marylebone, 1892) and one in southwark in 1923 - but that's under eliza. moving onto lucy now....