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Help please
« on: Sunday 01 July 12 18:23 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I am hoping someone can help.  I have recently been researching my wife's family tree.  I was getting on alright on Ancestry etc.  However I have hit a stumbling block and I am hoping someone can provide me with an answer.

I would like to know who the father of David Taylor (b 1790 d 1839) married 1811 to Mary Pettit in Navestock Essex.  They owned a farm in Noak Hill and their children were Children   David Taylor   abt 1813   Navestock
   Mary Taylor   abt 1816   Navestock
   Philip Taylor   abt 1821   Navestock
   Elizabeth Taylor   abt 1826   Navestock
   Mark Taylor   abt 1828   Navestock
I have the rest of the family up to my wife but have no information on who David Taylor's father was. Its possiblethat the farm house(s) belonged to William Taylor originally? then onto Ann? Daniel? and then a gap.  Can anyone Help please?

Mark

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Re: Help please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 July 12 11:25 BST (UK) »
I am probably just confirming what you already know but I can find no David Taylor baptisms around 1790 in Navestock or Doddinghurst. There is an earlier Taylor family baptising children in Navestock in 1740-50ish.
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APPLETON Harwich/Gravesend/Stepney
BRADLEY Bermondsey/Canning Town/Ilford, Essex
COLE/SALTWELL/DAVEY/MONK/RILEY/COPSEY/PAVET/BACON Navestock area Essex
CALLOW Dartford Kent/Deptford  RANDALL Greenwich/Deptford
DAVIS Ross/Stroud,Glos/West Ham, Essex
FENNING Gosbeck, Suffolk  WELCH Devon/Greenwich/Stanmore/Ipswich
PALMER Rotherhithe/Deptford/West Ham/Ilford
LANGDALE E London/Deptford  HERITAGE Rotherhithe/Bermondsey
VIZARD Bermondsey/Shoreditch  TURNER Liverpool/Chatham

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Re: Help please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 July 12 11:45 BST (UK) »
Hi, Scrabble
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Thank you for your reply. Its a tough one this, because I have found out so much about the other branches of my wife's ancestors.  However, in your opinion, could it be David Taylor was from another part of the country? or perhaps he was the son of one of the Taylor's (baptising) in the 1740-50's.  If so, do you have any suggestions on how to find out. Or do you think searches through land documentation would be better?
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Thanks again

Mark

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Re: Help please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 July 12 12:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Mark

Personally I would look for a baptism in parishes bordering Navestock. There is a small programme called Parloc (parish-locator) which you can download, you type in Navestock and it will generate a list of parishes by distance from Navestock. I start with the nearest parish and go on from there. Unfortunately I am away from home at the moment and I don't have it on this computer or I would do it for you. However even if you find a David Taylor bap around the right date you still need a bit more evidence to be sure it is the right one, sometimes the names of the children give a clue if they are the same through several generations. Although Taylor is relatively common I'd say that David was an unusual christian name in that area at that time.

I don't know anything about land records but it would be a more definite link if you can find something.

These are all the Taylor baptisms in Navestock 1538-1804 in case they are of use later. Sorry it turns out the ones I mentioned earlier were in the 1600s not 1700s. You mentioned a Daniel and there are a couple

30 dec 1632 Eliz. dau of widow Taylor
3 oct 1643 Eliz. dau of Tho.
28 dec 1643 Joane dau of Richard (Taylor?)
25 jan 1645/6 Daniel son of Daniel
3 apr 1655 Daniel son of Daniel
29 apr 1663 John son of Daniel & Susannah
19 may 1670 Esther dau of Thomas & Constant
24 May 1696 Maria dau of Thomas & Joan

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APPLETON Harwich/Gravesend/Stepney
BRADLEY Bermondsey/Canning Town/Ilford, Essex
COLE/SALTWELL/DAVEY/MONK/RILEY/COPSEY/PAVET/BACON Navestock area Essex
CALLOW Dartford Kent/Deptford  RANDALL Greenwich/Deptford
DAVIS Ross/Stroud,Glos/West Ham, Essex
FENNING Gosbeck, Suffolk  WELCH Devon/Greenwich/Stanmore/Ipswich
PALMER Rotherhithe/Deptford/West Ham/Ilford
LANGDALE E London/Deptford  HERITAGE Rotherhithe/Bermondsey
VIZARD Bermondsey/Shoreditch  TURNER Liverpool/Chatham


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Re: Help please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 July 12 13:19 BST (UK) »
Have you got Mary's bap? These are the Pettit baps in Navestock 1538-1804

21 Jan 1727/8   Elizabeth dau of Daniel PETTIT & Sarah
05 Aug 1787   Ann dau of Thomas PETTIT   & Jane
07 Mar 1790   Mary   dau of Thomas PETTIT & Jane
06 Apr 1792   Thomas son of Thomas PETTIT & Jane
20 Sep 1795   John   son of Thomas PETTIT & Jane

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APPLETON Harwich/Gravesend/Stepney
BRADLEY Bermondsey/Canning Town/Ilford, Essex
COLE/SALTWELL/DAVEY/MONK/RILEY/COPSEY/PAVET/BACON Navestock area Essex
CALLOW Dartford Kent/Deptford  RANDALL Greenwich/Deptford
DAVIS Ross/Stroud,Glos/West Ham, Essex
FENNING Gosbeck, Suffolk  WELCH Devon/Greenwich/Stanmore/Ipswich
PALMER Rotherhithe/Deptford/West Ham/Ilford
LANGDALE E London/Deptford  HERITAGE Rotherhithe/Bermondsey
VIZARD Bermondsey/Shoreditch  TURNER Liverpool/Chatham

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Re: Help please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 July 12 13:44 BST (UK) »
Hi again Scrabble,

Thank you for what you have provided me with.  I will have a look at parloc site you have suggested.  Mary Pettit is on the list (dauter of Thomas PETTIT & Jane) I believe. 

I forgot to mention that they also had a son called David (so there is a connection in terms of inheriting fathers name) he was b 1813 Navestock. He went on to run the farm according to 1871 census and then became the landlord of a local pub.

After David the farm was run by his brother Mark then by his son and so on up until my wife's father.

It would not surprise me if David was not his first name or that he was born els where.

Mark


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Re: Help please
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 December 12 13:25 GMT (UK) »
Mark....I have just come across your posting in relation to The Taylor family of Noak Hill. I deal with the history of Noak Hill and may be able to give you more information to the Taylor's and also to the properties that they once owned and also to the farm's that they once worked.

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 27 December 12 19:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi old Rowley,

I have information from present day back to the 1840 census.  the ancestor I am interested in is David Taylor.  Married to Mary Petit. I am keen to find out who his parents were? I would also be very happy with any information on the farms they owned and how they were aquired?

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Mark

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 December 12 09:04 GMT (UK) »
I have sent you a P.M. Mark whereby you can add your e-mail address too as a reply so that I can send on the information from my database to you rather than clog up this thread with it all (it is also Rootschat policy for members not to put their e-mail address on an open board). I may not be able to give the exact information that you require but there may be enough there for you to go on to further your research.

Just to help me out a bit what is the name that you have of the farm that they worked (the Taylor family were involved with five farms between 1720 and 1890's (six if you include the market garden that one branch of the family ran from the early 1900's to the 1950's)within the Noak Hill area that I know of, and also what was the name of the public house that David Taylor ran as I may have information in regards to those premises as well.

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Claxton- East London & Essex<br />Cuthbert- Mile End East London <br />Edwards - East London & Essex<br />Goll- Norfolk<br />Harris-Mile End East London<br />Hurr - Suffolk<br />Law- Bethnal Green East London<br />Moll- East London<br />Robinson- Bethnal Green East London<br />Tait- Argyll & Glasgow<br />Thompson Shoreditch East london<br />Watson- Glasgow<br />Wood- Bethnal Green East London<br /><br />Local history interest; Noak Hill & Harold Hill Essex<br /><br />census information crown cop