was james odonnell in england 1901

[glenalina]

Hi folks i am looking for info on my gr gr granfather james odonnell born in england in 1866. James married Mary mcclean in belfast 1887, they had a number of children elizabeth being my gr,granmother, other children where sarah, michael, james joseph, catherine and edward.  I can not find them on the irish census for 1901 so i was wondering if they where in england at this time.  Any info would be of great help.

                                      many thanks  jim

[t mo]

so far nothing jumps out for him can you give us the birth years for the children so as we can try using them for a search .
regards
trevor

[glenalina]

Hi t mo here are the names and yrs that they where born  1/elizabeth aug 1887  2/sarah jane 1889.  3/margaret ann 1891....4/edward 1892....5/mary ann  1893.....6/james joseph  1895.....7/catherine  1896 ....and 8/michael  1898.     Well these are the ones that I know off.

                                                  thanks  jim

[aghadowey]

Would this be the correct family in 1911?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Falls/Cairns_Street/172661

If so, James' wife was deceased but it lists a total of 6 children with 3 at home: Sarah J. (21), Mary (18) and James Joseph (16).

[glenalina]

Hi aghadowey yes thats them elizabeth was married (my gr gran mother) Edward was in prison in clonmel tipperary I dont know where margaret ann, catherine and michael where at this time but catherine marriers some one called mcentee later and  michael ends up in prison in 1920 along with his brother Edward in mountjoy.

                                  thanks jim

[t mo]

hi jim
found this 1901 cen
sarah wright 72 widow
mary ann wright 33
maggie ann o donnell 15  occ paper bag maker  born manchester
address 7 davisons building  red  bank  manchester

should have asked earlier were the children born in eng or ireland
regards
trevor

[aghadowey]

The 3 children listed in 1911 census (link posted abov) are given as born in Belfast).

Glenalina- according to the 1911 census there was also a daughter Mary which means more than 6 children in total.

[glenalina]

hi aghadowey yes there where 8 childern

elizabeth 1887
sarah jane 1889
margaret ann 1891
edward 1892
mary ann 1893
james joseph 1895
catherine 1896
michael 1898

                     jim

[glenalina]

hi t mo that maggie ann would have been to old at 15 yrs my margaret ann would have been only 10 yrs old and all children where born in ireland.

                                   thanks jim