Help with 'Swansea Parish' Please

[hanes teulu]

St John's juxta Swansea

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/StJohn/     - see reference to church moving 1880.

http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html

enter coordinates     265722    193734
when loaded, click on "1880 Town Plans" for "original" St Johns. 

modified - forgot to add, click on old map when loaded in main window to "zoom"   

[JohnG_Swansea]

Good Morning,

I have been advised by 'Gareth' the administrator of the South Wales pages of GENUKI that:

1) Four new paragraphs have been added to the Llangyfelach page, see: 
genuki<dot>org<dot>uk/big/wal/GLA/Llangyfelach/index.html#Description

2) A new 'Parish Boundaries' map page has been added to the Llangyfelach section, see:
genuki<dot>org<dot>uk/big/wal/GLA/Llangyfelach/ParishMap.html

I gather that in the fullness of time Gareth will be updating the other pages he is responsible for, with similar information.

Those of you with interests in counties along the M4 corridor of south Wales might wish to consider this for future investigations.

Regards, JohnG Swansea.

[knight456]

thanks alot john for all your help,much appreciated.
have you gone onto the cambrian index search through the council website,over 70 results for pentre estyll.
                                stacey.

[hanes teulu]

there are some burial's of surname emanuel in st john i would like to find,also baptisms were done there too,
have you come across any emanuel's  whilst researching?
theyre either in pentre estyll or in llangyfelach rd through the census.

Glam FHS Index for St John's juxta Swansea
Baptisms
Ame Emanuel, father David 1800
William llewellyn Emanuel, father Robert, Tin Worker, mother Florence, 22 May 1921, 156 Cwm Road
Anne Emmanuel, father David, 17 Jul 1800 (T)
John Emmanuel, father David, mother Anne, 15 Apr 1810 (T)
Robert Emmanuel, father David, 24 Jul 1805 (T)
Thomas Emmanuel, father David, 24 Dec 1802 (T)

Burials
Thomas Emanuel, 31 Mar 1800
John Emmanuel, son of David, 29 Jul 1811 (T)
Robert Emmanuel, son of David, 13 Sep 1810 (T)
Thomas Emmanuel, 18 Aug 1856, Pentre Estyll, age 55
Thomas Emmanuel, 31 Mar 1800 (T)

Marriages
David Emanuel, Parish of St John to Ann Jerry, Parish of St John, 28 Jan 1792
Rees Emmanuel, Parish of St John to Mary Evans, Parish of St John, Jan 1825 (B)

The gates to "old" St John's" are normally kept locked (a sad reflection of the times) but passing there last Saturday I found them open while items were being collected from the Church. I had a brief (very) look around the part of the burial ground that was accessible - part still being behind a second set of locked gates!!
Graves very, very worn and difficult to read. Some unmarked.
   
 

[knight456]

thanks alot for your help,when you mention gates r u talking about the high street church,or hafod?
                           stacey

[hanes teulu]

"Old St John's" refers to the Church in the High Street (now St Mathew's) - relocated to the Hafod (Bowen Street) 1880 (Genuki).
 

[Jeffrey]

Thank you all very much for this full and comprehensive answer.

So, just to clarify this, if someone was baptised in llangyfelach in the early 1800's would it mean they were part of St. John's Parish, Swansea? Or am I barking up the wrong tree here!!!

Judy

[JohnG_Swansea]

Thank you all very much for this full and comprehensive answer.

So, just to clarify this, if someone was baptised in llangyfelach in the early 1800's would it mean they were part of St. John's Parish, Swansea? Or am I barking up the wrong tree here!!!

Judy

Hello Judy

You ask:
>> if someone was baptised in llangyfelach in the early 1800's would it mean they were part of St. John's Parish, Swansea?

I am open to correction by others, but in my humble opinion, the short answer is No.

It is my opinion that in those days anyone baptised in Llangyfelach could have been resident in areas 4, 5, 6, or 7 of the map found at:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Llangyfelach/ParishMap.html

There is a wordy, wordy description for each of the areas 4, 5, 6 and 7 at:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Llangyfelach/index.html#Description

A map of the Parish of St John's (Hafod) is to be found within area 22 of map:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ParishMap.html

A number of other areas of Swansea are to be found on the same map.

Regards, John

[mikk1]

Hi,

I have a connection to the Emmanuel/Manuel family in Swansea through Mary b.1836
Thomas Emmanuel, father David, 24 Dec 1802 m. Mary Williams, these are the parents.

John