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Please find on 1891 and 1881 Census
« on: Tuesday 24 July 12 14:40 BST (UK) »
Hi, Please can anyone find Alfred King Whitworth born Basford or Old Basford, Nottinghamshire in 1871?
I have him on the 1901 and 1911 census in Nottinghamshire but can't find him on either of the above.
Thanks
Kathb
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Baker/Cheshire,Crewe/Somerset
Davies/Calvert/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Yorkshire, Bowes
Fitzsimmons/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Lancashire, Liverpool/Ireland
Lewis/Cheshire,Spurstow, Bunbury, Little Budworth, Helsby/Birkenhead
Mackay/Mckay Caithness
Anderson/, Caithness
Dunnet, Caithness
Mowat/ Caithness
Gunn/ Caithness
Smith/Caithness, Dunnet, Thurso, Castletown
Rosie/Caithness, Thurso
Sadlier Forster/Liverpool/Ireland, Cork

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Re: Please find on 1891 and 1881 Census
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 24 July 12 15:58 BST (UK) »
No joy so far but on FreeBMD there is a marriage of an Alfred King 1873 Radford and on the same page an Elizabeth Whitworth - his parents maybe?

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Re: Please find on 1891 and 1881 Census
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 July 12 17:46 BST (UK) »
wonder if this is Alfred's mother??

1871
Ilkeston Rd
Radford Notts
rebecca Whitworth head widow 76 Nottingham
Elizabeth Whitworth daughter U 31(or 37?) Hose mender Nottingham
Thomas King Whitworth son 7 Nottingham
Rebecca King Whitworth daughter 7 Nottingham
Frederick King Whitworth 3 radford Nottm
RG10 3502 32 7 
I think the children should be grandchildren to Rebecca??

they are living next door to one of my ancestors!

no luck in 1881/91

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Please find on 1891 and 1881 Census
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 July 12 18:15 BST (UK) »
wonder if this is Alfred??

1891
Park St lenton Nottingham
Alfred king head M 54  Lace maker Nottingham
Kate wife 47 Lace mender Nottingham
Frederick son U 24 Lace maker Radford nottm
ALFRED son 20 Engine Cleaner Radford Nottm
George son 17 draper? Radford
Harriet daughter 6 Lenton Nottingham
Albert son 5 Lenton

RG12 2681 104 28

this may be the scenario - or it could be my imagination being very creative!!!!

Marriage (as already posted by Willow) 1873 Elizabeth Whitworth Alfred King

Death reg FreeBMD
Elizabeth King
age 40
Sept qtr 1877
Radford
7b 112

Marriage reg FreeBMD
Sept qtr 1883
Nottingham
on same page
Alfred King
Sarah Catherine H newton
7b 532

1881 Sarah Catherine H Newton is living in Lenton with her brother - age is 37 occ Lace mender

Did Alfred shorten her name to Kate???

1891 Kate King age 47 occ Lace mender nottingham living Lenton

?????

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Please find on 1891 and 1881 Census
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 July 12 19:52 BST (UK) »
Once again Rootschatters are great detectives.
Thank you Suzard and Willow, you have really opened up the possibilities of King/Whitworth connections.
I posted this look up for my cousin who is over here from NZ and she is going home at the end of the month to try and follow up the connection further.  We will let you know what mysteries she is now able to crack.
Many Thanks
Regards
Kathb
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Baker/Cheshire,Crewe/Somerset
Davies/Calvert/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Yorkshire, Bowes
Fitzsimmons/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Lancashire, Liverpool/Ireland
Lewis/Cheshire,Spurstow, Bunbury, Little Budworth, Helsby/Birkenhead
Mackay/Mckay Caithness
Anderson/, Caithness
Dunnet, Caithness
Mowat/ Caithness
Gunn/ Caithness
Smith/Caithness, Dunnet, Thurso, Castletown
Rosie/Caithness, Thurso
Sadlier Forster/Liverpool/Ireland, Cork

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Re: Please find on 1891 and 1881 Census
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 09:56 BST (UK) »
Well spotted Suz  ;D I was searching for Alfred King with mother Elizabeth which wasnt coming up of course

Heres Alfred in 1901 at 36 Park Street

Alfred King 63 head b Nottingham lace maker
Kate King 57 wife b Nottingham pianoforte teacher
George King 27 son b Radford stoker
Harriet King 16 dau b Lenton lace hand
Albert King 15 son b Lenton straw bonnet maker

RG13/3164 folio 162 page 36

Alfred died 1928 Sarah/Kate died 1925

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Re: Please find on 1891 and 1881 Census
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 10:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks again Willow, my cousin has now set off from here in Cheshire but will be catching up with her Nottingham branch in the next few weeks before travelling back to NZ.  I will let her know your latest findings and she is going to speak with her relatives in Nottingham to see where this all fits together.
Thanks again for your help
Regards
Kathb
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Baker/Cheshire,Crewe/Somerset
Davies/Calvert/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Yorkshire, Bowes
Fitzsimmons/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Lancashire, Liverpool/Ireland
Lewis/Cheshire,Spurstow, Bunbury, Little Budworth, Helsby/Birkenhead
Mackay/Mckay Caithness
Anderson/, Caithness
Dunnet, Caithness
Mowat/ Caithness
Gunn/ Caithness
Smith/Caithness, Dunnet, Thurso, Castletown
Rosie/Caithness, Thurso
Sadlier Forster/Liverpool/Ireland, Cork

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Re: Please find on 1891 and 1881 Census
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 11:15 BST (UK) »
No problem I just wonder why it took them so long to get married? Alfred is still living at home with his parents in 1871

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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and is for academic and non-commercial research purposes only Researching: Hilton (Wolverhampton & Tamworth) , Simkiss & Mears (Wolverhampton & Somerset) Bowkett & Nash (Ledbury & Wolverhampton) Knight & Beard (Gloucestershire), Colley (Tibberton) Hoggins (Willenhall) Jones (Bilston), Harris & Bourne (Droitwich) Matthews (Wolverhampton & High Offley) Partridge (Monmouthshire)

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Re: Please find on 1891 and 1881 Census
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 11:23 BST (UK) »
Hi, Willow, I will let you know the outcome of this when I can next contact my cousin, it could be a few weeks when she is back in NZ.
Regards
Kathb
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Baker/Cheshire,Crewe/Somerset
Davies/Calvert/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Yorkshire, Bowes
Fitzsimmons/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Lancashire, Liverpool/Ireland
Lewis/Cheshire,Spurstow, Bunbury, Little Budworth, Helsby/Birkenhead
Mackay/Mckay Caithness
Anderson/, Caithness
Dunnet, Caithness
Mowat/ Caithness
Gunn/ Caithness
Smith/Caithness, Dunnet, Thurso, Castletown
Rosie/Caithness, Thurso
Sadlier Forster/Liverpool/Ireland, Cork