Regiments Movement

[peterfranklin1982]

Hello,

Without boring anyone with the details i am trying to find an ancestor Robert Franklin who was born in St Mary's Northgate, Canterbury, Kent between 1818 - 1820.

As i cant find any record of his birth i am now trying to locate his father Thomas (given to me by my ancestors marriage cert).

I have been informed that St Mary's Northgate was the name of the barracks and i would like to know if anyone knows of a way i can find out what regiments would've been stationed in that barracks between the years of 1818 - 1820, this way i can try and place a Thomas in Kent at that time.   Before anyone says it i realise that Thomas may not have been in the army at all, this is just another avenue i am exploring!

I understand that it may be impossible but i though someone might know a way of finding out!

Thank you in advance! 

[macintosh]

Try www.canterburykfhs.co.uk/st_mary_northgate.htm

This is the Kent family history society and the records of births marriages deaths and banns cover the period you are looking for, the Soldiers families from the barracks used the church until the garrison church was built in 1850, so it is a safe bet that some soldiers families were married, christened or buried from the church, so I assume that the church records would indicated what regiment was there, I suspect a cavalry regiment at that time 1818-20, perhaps they can identify for you.

James

[peterfranklin1982]

excellent, thank you for your help.

on a side issue, if there was a cavalry regiment and i found a thomas it would be very good because Robert later joined the 1st royal dragoons around 1840!

[t mo]

think this must be the service/pension record for robert
robert franklin born northgate canterbury 1819
age at att 19 yrs 8 mos  att date 5 jun 1838
regt 1st royal dragoons
soldier no 605
occ baker
served , turkey and crimea balaclava 2yrs , awarded turkish medal and crimean medal and 3 clasps
character , very good , 3 good conduct badges
29 times in regt defaulters book and  twice court martialled
att 5 jun 1838 -8 dec 1840
imprisoned before trial 9 dec to 18 dec 1840 tried and imprisoned 3mos with hard labour  and loss of beer money for 6 mos
in gaol 19 dec 1840 - 18 mar 1841
private 19 mar 1841 - 10 jul 1841
deserted 11 jul 1841 rejoined 17 jul 1842 imprisoned before trial 17 - 22 jul 1842 tried by district court martial for desertion convicted and sentenced to 9 mos imprisonment and marked --? the letter 1 ?[can,t make out handwriting ] 25 - 29 jul
private 25 dec 1842 - 12 may 1852
entitled to good conduct pay 1d 13 may 1854
pvt 13 may 1852 - 12 may 1854
good conduct pay  2d 13 may 1854
pvt 13 may 1854 - 24 dec 1854
forfeited good conduct pay 1d per diem for entry in defaulters book
pvt 25 dec 1854 - 16 jan 1855
forfeited good conduct pay 1d per diem for entry in defaulters book
pvt 17 jan 1855 - 31 mar 1857
total service allowed to reckon to 31 mar 1857  = 14 yrs 97 days 
pvt 1 apr 1857 - 2 jun 1858
restored good conduct pay 1d 3 jun 1858
pvt 3 jun 1858 - 2jun 1859
restored good conduct pay 2d 3 jun 1858
pvt 3 jun 1859 - 2 jun 1861
entitled to good conduct pay 3d 3 jun 1861
pvt 3 jun 1861 - 17 apr 1862
further service 18 apr 1862 - 20 may 1862 = 19yrs 147 days

medical reason of discharge , epilepsy  first noticed in jan 1862  caused by constitutional infirmity and not the result of indulgence of intoxicating liquor or other vice .

discharged chatham 20 may 1862
age 43 yrs 7 mos  height 5 foot 9  complexion fresh eyes grey  hair grey
intended place of residence newcastle on tyne .

that,s the lot on robert i also looked for a william but although there were several none could have been yours as they weren,t born early enough , but bear in mind that these service records are all that are available no other records exist now so other than tracing regts you won,t have anything else to look for .
regards
trevor










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[peterfranklin1982]

Thank you t mo, i actually have copies of the discharge papers you have listed there and traced his movements since 1841 until his death in Gateshead in 1878.

The only thing i cant find is a record of his birth.  There is nothing in the parish records for St Mary's Northgate.  Yet it clearly states on his discharge papers that he was born there.  I have since been told that perhaps his father Thomas was in the army and didnt have him baptised in St Mary's Northgate.

On Roberts marriage cert his father Thomas is listed as being a carpenter.

Thanks for all your help its much appreciated.

Cheers

Peter