Marshall Family

[Thwarted]

I am getting so frustrated searching for my grandmothers records, all that I have been able to come up with so far is records from South Australia which show her marrying Alexander Robertson in Stirling on the 31st March 1917 and subsequently passing away in Adelaide on the 24th May 1930. Her Australian records show her name as only Maria Marshall.
On the marriage certificate it says she was born in Somercoates England and she was 39 years old at the time possibly making her birth around 1878, it also notes that her father was "unknown". On the death certificate it states she was 53 years old in 1930 making her birth year around 1877.
The searches that I have carried out have a Maria Marshall born in Sculcoates in 1875 and another born in West Derby (Maria Louise Marshall) in 1876, now you will have to forgive my ignorance of the geography of these areas but I haven't the faintest clue where to look now. Maybe the Aussie who wrote the certificates mistook the spelling as they could sound similar?
It wouldn't surprise me if she was not quite truthful about her age, maybe she had disowned her father as well.
Any help that you could provide would be greatly appreciated and reduce the amount of grey hairs that I have accumulated trying to find her.

[wendoree]

Hi,
There is a Somercoates in Derbyshire.Do you have Maria's  Mothers name?.
Wendoree

[cath151]

Hi
1901 Census
Rg13/4359  38/35
Dobbing Hill, Eccleshall Bierlow, Sheffield.

Clara Goodwin  head  s  56  Living Own means    Sheffield
Mary Susannah Mallinson    s   38  Ladys Companion    NZ, Christchurch
Maria Smith Marshall  serv  s   23  Dom Serv         Summercoates, Derbyshire.

In similar area  in 1911.

Best wishes
 Cathy

[cath151]

Possible emigration record?
22 Jan 1913
London to Adelaide
Ballarat
Maria Marshall  34  Female Domestic
Cathy

[cath151]

Hi
There is a birth reg  for a Maria Marshall Smith
Belper, Derbyshire.

AMJ 1878
7b 605

Cathy

[garstonite]

1881 census
19 Cinder Road
Alfreton
Derbyshire

Robert Smith.... head  aged 46 born Aston on Trent Derbyshire
Sarah Smith ...wife ...aged 52 ...born  Kniton,Nottinghamshire
Maria Marshall Smith aged 3 ..Grandaughter ...born Somercotes ,Derbyshire

William Browning  visitor aged 9 born Nottingham
Benjamin Jarvis  lodger aged 64 born Bolsover ,Derbyshire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somercotes

hope this helps
allan

[Thwarted]

Thank you all very much for the information, it seems that it is my grandmother Maria Marshall as the dates line up with the information on the Australian marriage and death certificates, it was Somercoates Derbyshire and no, her mothers name was not required to be recorded on those certificates. The changes in spelling threw me but I guess that is a common thing?And changing around her surname from Smith to a plausible Marshall as well?

Once again thanks to everyone who responded

And thanks for a wonderful Olympic Games, particularly enjoyed spirit of the Paralympics.

Brian

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

I have an idea why Maria was called Maria Marshall SMITH on her birth cert. and then became just Maria MARSHALL later on.


Going backwards here are Robert and Sarah SMITH in 1871,


1871  RG10/3476  f.39  p.22  Codnor and Loscoe, Derbyshire
Wright St

Robert SMITH         Head    Mar    37    Coal Miner    Derby Aston
Sarah      "             Wife    Mar    43                      Notts Kneeton
Frances MARSHALL  Daur-in-law    13    Scholar        Notts Radford
William       "                Nephew     3                      Nottingham
Elizabeth G GENT           Boarder     8m                   Derby Codnor


I expect you know that daur-in-law then could mean stepdaughter as we would say today.


Marriage
Robert SMITH    Jun Q 1867    Nottingham    7b 337
other names with same reference,
Walter ATTENBORROW
Mary HAWKINS
Sarah MARSHALL


In 1871 I can see Walter ATTENBORROW living with a Mary and a lodger Samuel HAWKIN so it looks likely that Robert SMITH married Sarah MARSHALL.



This looks like Sarah in 1861,

1861  RG9/2483  f.34  p.11  Kneeton, Nottinghamshire
Road

Sarah MARSHALL    Head    Un    33    Dressmaker    Nottingham Kneeton
Thomas      "       Brother   Un    18    Ag Lab                  "        Kneeton
Frances      "          Daur            3                                "        Radford



I think you will need the birth cert. found by cath151 to prove it unless a baptism is found but I think Maria is the daughter of Frances MARSHALL, so her real name would be Maria MARSHALL. Frances might have added SMITH as that was her step-father's name and possibly the name she was known by at the time.


Regards,
Daisy

[Thwarted]

Thanks for that Daisy, I appreciate it very much, at last I now can get a picture of who Maria was, she had passed away before I was born

Cheers and thanks to all again

Brian