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William John Long:
« on: Wednesday 12 September 12 15:05 BST (UK) »
Trying to find out all of the siblings of William John Long. I have traced him back as far as his wedding record to Mary Jane Mason 1st of April 1902, St. Anne's Church of Ireland, Belfast, Antrim and at that time both parties are noted as staying at 38 Gaffikin Street. (Cannot find on trawling 1901 census.)

I have his birth as 11 of June 1880, Ballymagarrick, Down, along with a sister Mary Jane Long born or baptised on the same day, along with another sister born, baptised there, Bridget Anne Long, 26th of February 1878 (B.C.) but wish to find any other siblings.

As the family stayed in Belfast, I wish to find them on the 1901 census. His wife Mary Jane Mason, I can find with William & family on the 1911 census staying at 71 Eureka Street but again I cannot find Mary Jane on the 1901 census.

William John's parents are William John Long & Julianne Heke ( Julia Ann Heckie, Hickie, Hickey.)
who married at Boardmills 2nd Presbyterian Church by the Rev. A. Dobbin on the 25th of December, 1876, Lisburn Co. Down (Drumalig) but later lived in Belfast?

Mary Jane Mason was born in Belfast, 17th of January 1881 to Thomas Mason & Catherine McKee, again I cannot find this Mason family on censuses to get siblings names etc.

The witnesses on William John Jr. & Mary Jane's marriage record, 1902 are Robert Gamble & Isabella McKee.

Any help to find siblings for the couple would be much appreciated.

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                                                                                                               Duncan.

P.S. Seperate post about William John Long Senior & Julia Ann Hickey in Down Board now locked.
       Since posting request however I have found Julia Ann Long's death, age 37, in Partick, Lanarkshire, Scotland, 27th of February, 1895 at 4 Orchard Street. This gives her parents as, Peter Heckie, Tailor (Journeyman) & Alice McDonald. I can still find no details for Peter & Alice's other family, if any, or anything about them. Still no death found for William John Long to pin his parents down or his D.o.B. Still looking for any help found for the family.
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Re: William John Long:
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 September 12 15:19 BST (UK) »
Gaffikin St was off Sandy Row. Here it is in the 1901 census:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__George_s_Ward_Belfast/Gaffikin_Street/

Lennon Wylie street directory for 1901 has number 38 listed as vacant.
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Re: William John Long:
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 September 12 16:11 BST (UK) »
William John's parents are William John Long & Julianne Heke ( Julia Ann Heckie, Hickie, Hickey.) who married at Boardmills 2nd Presbyterian Church by the Rev. A. Dobbin on the 25th of December, 1878, Lisburn Co. Down (Drumalig) but later lived in Belfast?
Are you sure of the marriage date? Bridget Anne Long was born 26 Feb.1878 according to extracted birth record. From another source William John Long marriage Julianne in 1876 Lisburn registration district.
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Re: William John Long:
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 September 12 16:13 BST (UK) »
Hi,
    Sorry the marriage was in 1876.
                                                          Duncan.

P.S. Re 1901 Census, I did wonder when I could find No. 37 & 39 but no 38 in house search for that street.
McDonald: Patterson: Hart: Josey: Provan: Meldrum: Murphy: McIntyre: McEachern:McColl: Cupples: Burt: McCormack: Steele: Laird: Hardie: Robertson: Easton: Sneddon: Skinner: Stark: Shaw: Sanders: Chapman, Gordon, Grant, Littlejohn,  McLeod, McHattie: Younie: Ironside: Spalding, Smith: Mathieson: Ower:
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Re: William John Long:
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 September 12 16:20 BST (UK) »
That's okay, just want to make sure we had the correct details.

Unfortunately the first available census will be 1901 (when all the children could be out of the household & parents could be dead).
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Re: William John Long:
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 September 12 16:27 BST (UK) »
Hi,
     Just found out William John  & Mary Jane's son William John Long was born 26 of July, 1905 at 68 Bentham Street, witness was the Catherine Boyle relative mentioned on the 1911 Census at 71 Eureka Street.

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                           Duncan.
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Re: William John Long:
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 September 12 16:40 BST (UK) »
P.S. Re 1901 Census, I did wonder when I could find No. 37 & 39 but no 38 in house search for that street.
You added that in after I posted. Remember that the street numbers for a house is not the same as the number on the census form. When you search the 1911 census you can get the actual street address.
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Re: William John Long:
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 September 12 17:23 BST (UK) »
In this case it looks to me from Form A as though census house number 71 in 1911 was also postal address 71 Eureka St.
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Re: William John Long:
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 September 12 19:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Elwyn,
               I have the 1911 census for Eureka Street, trying to find both families, Long & Mason prior to the wedding in 1902, on the 1901 census. Sorry if I've confused you all.
                                                                                                         Regards,
                                                                                                                   Duncan.  :'(

Now found all children born to William John & Mary Jane Mason.

Annie on 1911 Census is Mary Catherine, 28/Oct/1903, married William Clark, 30/Mar/1923 in Partickhill, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Annie died, Glasgow,  1979.

William John, 26/Jul/1905, died single, 23/Sep/1930 in Glasgow.

Joseph, 27/Jan/1908, died single, 07/Jan/1926 in Robroyston Hospital, Glasgow.

Florence Smyth, 15/Feb/1910, nothing further known.

Elizabeth,  24/Aug/1911, married John Michael McGinlay, in St. Peter's Church, Partick, Lanarkshire, Scotland on 12/Mar/1934.

Alexander, 06/May/1915, no further details.

All born in Belfast, at a variety of addresses in Gaffikin Street, Bentham Street & Eureka Street.

Still would like to know where Florence Smyth Long was at 1911 census, not at home, cannot find a death or marriage or death in Scotland.

Still wanted 1901 family locations.
                                     D.
McDonald: Patterson: Hart: Josey: Provan: Meldrum: Murphy: McIntyre: McEachern:McColl: Cupples: Burt: McCormack: Steele: Laird: Hardie: Robertson: Easton: Sneddon: Skinner: Stark: Shaw: Sanders: Chapman, Gordon, Grant, Littlejohn,  McLeod, McHattie: Younie: Ironside: Spalding, Smith: Mathieson: Ower:
Koens.

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