Ripponden and Stones original records - David & Sarah Shaw

[emmsthheight]

Hi mso1

Yes, that's the place!

I know Fielding Farm was very close by on the map too.  I'm interested in your Berrry's too for a different reason.  we have Berrys in Cumbria belonging to a friend of mine but also possibly linked to me.  e have a lot of missing information but they travelled a lot and I'm realising some branches may have been in Lancashire.  We have a photo of a gypsy caravan with a James Berry coach painter from that area.

Best wishes

Emms

[emmsthheight]

Hi Dave

Yes, that would definitely be the Windy Bank near Littleborough.
Dad always said the family had links to Littleborough and had farmed near there.

I think it was David and also some of the other branches who were farm workers among other things before moving down into the town.

David and Sarah were dead before 1851, and there are no relationships given on 1841 but John is one of the older ones in the house and I think will be the older son.  At first I thought it meant the big house at Windy Bank and there is the odd Shaw Rhodes marriage, then I thought maybe they worked for them,  Now I'm realising there were cottages up there too.

Dad said at one stage they farmed on Blackstone edge which looks right by there.

Best wishes

Emms

[dave the tyke]

Hi Emms

I think my Lightowlers were tenants at the Hall and might even have owned it at one time. Anyway a history of WindyBank can be found here

http://www.link4life.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=c.showPage&pageID=170

The chapter is Old Houses - Hundersfield and the pages start about 436
enjoy.
The sketch is taken from the above book and was done by architect George Shaw. The photo was taken a few years ago by myself.

Dave

[dave the tyke]

2nd Installment

Royds family history
James Royds' account of the family (1826)

Copy of papers found at Mount Falinge in 1842 in the handwriting of James Royds who died 2nd Feby 1842
 Memm. Off hand September 1826
My Grandfather James Royds lived at Deeplishill near Rochdale and died there before I was born I think about 66 years old. I have heard my father say that my grandfather lived in Yorkshire & I have some recollection of Windy Bank or Townhouse being his former residence & that a brother lived at townhouse near Littlebro'. This I take to be the father ancestor of Mrs Ferrand and Mrs Buckley of Rochdale two sisters & who were the parents of the present Thos Ferrand late Mrs Dearden and two Buckleys' Wm & John now living.

The above letter appears to link Windy Bank and Littleborough to Elizabetha Lightowlers who married John Roide of Wardle in 1621

Elizabeth Lightowlers' father Charles lived at Baitings or Baitings Gate in Soyland at the same time as his brother Edmund lived in Rochdale. Charles was married to Agneta Shay [a common local spelling of Shaw]. A branch of the Royds were 'of Beestonhurst'.

Dave

[mso1]

Thanks for your reply Emms.

Benjamin Berry b 1844 Soyland was my GG Grandfather. The family are listed on the 1841/1851 census's as living at Stones/New Stones (was it an area of Soyland or a street?) They moved to Oldham, Lancashire sometime between 1851-1861.

Benjamins had a brother called James b1838 Soyland. When he moved to Oldham he was a Cotton Twiner Piecer (as was Benjamin).

Does anyone know if Fielding Farm, Soyland still exists and exactly where New Stones was or is?
Regards
Moira

[emmsthheight]

Hi Dave
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Thank you!

Loads of stuff to look at.  I can already see loads of interest in the book and cincidences in our family with what you've written

I love the pictures.  I'm even more intrigued than ever!  It's interesting the architect was George Shaw.  we have loads of people in building and planning etc and my ggrandfather was - according to Dad - Borough Surveyor of Rochdale,

On the other hand apparently there was a Scottish architect called Shaw around Rochdale for a while!

Thank you again.

I will have a good read and get back.

Best wishes

Emms

[emmsthheight]

Hi Moira

Thank you for your reply. 


I'll have a look at my notes and get back.

Best wishes

Emms