Manchester Cathedral Marriage

[Puzzle]

Please could anyone help me obtain information on the the marriage of my great-great-great- grandfather who was married to Jane Lowndes on 10  November 1807 at Manchester Cathedral.  I have had great trouble tracking either of them and was beginning to doubt they existed, I would love to have proof of the marriage and of any subsequent children. (I am pretty certain that my great-great-grandmother was their daughter, Mary Ann, born in Halsall, but there is an very outside chance she was their niece). I also think they were later deported to Australia 2 years apart.... But that's another story. I would be really grateful for your help, I live in France so cannot easily go and to any groundwork research myself.

[Radcliff]

And who did she marry

[Radcliff]

Matthew Ward 1780 son of John and Hannah

[Puzzle]

Their daughter, presumably, Mary Ann born 1809 married William Edwards and they went out to Australia on an assisted passage in 1853, William died on the voyage but Mary Ann gave the information that her 'parents', Matthew and Jane Ward were already living in Sydney.  I only wondered if they just might have been aunt and uncle as the only birth record I can find for Mary Ann is to a John and Jennifer Ward, but I think this is not right.

Would I be able to get a copy of the marriage in the Cathedral from anywhere?

Thanks so much for your help, you say son of John and Hannah Ward, Manchester?

[Radcliff]

Right so you have given us some thing to work from

St Martins in The Field Liverpool
1st September 1831
William Edwards,plumber and glazier of Liverpool
Mary Ward ,spinster of Halsall
witness to marriage
HH Colbourne and Jane Heaney
married by licence
with consent of such as the law requires

[heatherjulie]

Hi

Matthew Ward baptised 17th September 1780 Manchester Collegiate(later Manchester Cathedral) son of John Ward and Hannah

www.lan-opc.org.uk

Heather

[Gibel]

Just bear in mind that just because Mary Ward says she was of Halsall at marriage it doesn't mean she was born there. She could have been working there.

Mary may well have been born in Liverpool or anywhere else for that matter. There doesn't seem to be a Mary Ward baptised in Halsall or within that parish at the right time.

[Radcliff]

Can you confirm this is their daughter

St Peter Liverpool
19th May 1834
Jane Edwards
daughter of William Edwards and Mary
father a plumber and glazier
abode Devonshire Place,Everton

[Puzzle]

Yes, I think it is, William and Mary Ann had 7 children, James, my great-grandfather 1835, then Jane, Mary 1840, Ann 1842, William 1844, Matthew 1849 and Josiah, born and died on voyage to Australia.
Certainly William became a 'journeyman painter', but he seems to have been. Plumber/ glazier before that.  I have a copy of William and Mary's marriage. It was Mary's parents who were a bit of a mystery, and the endless William Edwards are not easy either! Wish they had more adventurous names, but the other side of the family are mostly Evans, very, very tricky.

Thank you so much for the John and Hannah.  I am now quite sure Matthew and Jane are the correct parents for Mary Ann, I think Matthew was sent to Tasmania in 1840, and Jane in 1842.  I wonder if she got herself sent? If Mary was her only daughter and she was married and struggling with a growing family, life might have been very difficult on her own, did this ever happen do you know?

Interestingly, fewer people died on the convict ship, than the family's assisted passage which was just dreadful by all accounts.