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Need help finding Ggrandfather Harold Hammond b about 1905.
« on: Wednesday 07 November 12 17:20 GMT (UK) »
I have a copy of my G grandfather and G grandmothers marriage.  From this I have been able to trace my G grandmothers family on the census'.  However, I am struggling to find my G grandfather.

The info I have is the following:

Harold Hammond m Sarah Hawkins 25 Dec 1924.
Both were 19.
Harolds father - Harold Hammond, Carman, Deceased.
They were married in Fitzroy Sq W1 and both lived in the Camden area (NW1).

One of the witnesses was F Hammond - possibly my G grandfathers mother/brother/sister?

Can anyone else see my G grandfather/GG grandfather on the census? 

Thanks
Clift - Middlesex/Marylebone/London/St Pancras
Winkworth - Middlesex/London/Marylebone
Gibbs - London/Middlesex/St Pancras/Norfolk/Oxfordshire
Ambler - Middlesex/London/Hoxton/Hackney
Hammond - London/Middlesex/St Pancras
O'Shea - Ireland/Tipperary/London/St Pancras/Camden

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Re: Need help finding Ggrandfather Harold Hammond b about 1905.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 November 12 20:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Would you post the complete details from the marriage cert?

Addresses? Other witness(es)?
Full names?


Thanks!
Ray
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Re: Need help finding Ggrandfather Harold Hammond b about 1905.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 November 12 20:24 GMT (UK) »
Here goes:

St Johns Fitzroy Square W1
25 Dec 1924

Harold Hammond, aged 19, occupation is a little hard to read - looks like driver, I can't decipher the word before driver, poss 'motor'?
62 (I think..) Cleaveland St
Father - Harold Hammond, deceased, carman.

Sarah Hawkins, aged 19, no occupation
193 Drummond St, NW1
Father - Daniel Hawkins, market porter.

Witnesses - F.Hammond and R.Hale.
Clift - Middlesex/Marylebone/London/St Pancras
Winkworth - Middlesex/London/Marylebone
Gibbs - London/Middlesex/St Pancras/Norfolk/Oxfordshire
Ambler - Middlesex/London/Hoxton/Hackney
Hammond - London/Middlesex/St Pancras
O'Shea - Ireland/Tipperary/London/St Pancras/Camden

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Re: Need help finding Ggrandfather Harold Hammond b about 1905.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 November 12 20:34 GMT (UK) »
Sarah

. . . . . and your G-Grandmother's name? [sorry should have asked that originally]


Could F.Hammond be big sis Florence? b 1904?

Ray

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Re: Need help finding Ggrandfather Harold Hammond b about 1905.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 November 12 20:49 GMT (UK) »
No worries, my Ggrandmother was Sarah Hawkins, her details are above too.

With regards to Florence, I think you are right, should have known that.  My dad always refers to her as 'Doll, so threw me a bit!!
Clift - Middlesex/Marylebone/London/St Pancras
Winkworth - Middlesex/London/Marylebone
Gibbs - London/Middlesex/St Pancras/Norfolk/Oxfordshire
Ambler - Middlesex/London/Hoxton/Hackney
Hammond - London/Middlesex/St Pancras
O'Shea - Ireland/Tipperary/London/St Pancras/Camden

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Re: Need help finding Ggrandfather Harold Hammond b about 1905.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 November 12 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Not Sarah.

Harold's mother, Harold senior's wife?

R

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Re: Need help finding Ggrandfather Harold Hammond b about 1905.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 November 12 21:16 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Ray, doesn't take a lot to confuse me!!

No, I don't know the name of Harold Snr's wife.  I was hoping that when I got the marriage cert and Harold Jnr's fathers name that I may be able to find them living together on the census as a family (as I did with Sarah).  But like I said in my original message, I can't seem to find a family that is 'likely' to be them, wasn't sure if I was just missing them?

As far as I know my fathers family (Hammonds) have always lived in the Camden area of London, or on the borders, i.e Islington etc, but this is not a fact.

Clift - Middlesex/Marylebone/London/St Pancras
Winkworth - Middlesex/London/Marylebone
Gibbs - London/Middlesex/St Pancras/Norfolk/Oxfordshire
Ambler - Middlesex/London/Hoxton/Hackney
Hammond - London/Middlesex/St Pancras
O'Shea - Ireland/Tipperary/London/St Pancras/Camden

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Re: Need help finding Ggrandfather Harold Hammond b about 1905.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 November 12 21:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi

They seem to be based Witham Essex

Starting with Florence, going back.

Robert Hammond bc 1850
Mary Ann bc1852 d1891-1900?

Sons Harold and Bertie

Have to leave you to fill in?

Cheers!

Ray


 
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Re: Need help finding Ggrandfather Harold Hammond b about 1905.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 07 November 12 23:52 GMT (UK) »
Possible in 1911 born Islington, he could have made up having a known father?

Jennifer
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