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Re: Redruth marriage - TREWRIN and WHITFORD
« Reply #9 on: Monday 19 November 12 01:01 GMT (UK) »
There wouldn't have been enough room on the certificate to put all the information about the first marriages so it may have been a factor of expediency rather than ignorance. Both death certificates have different informants and are 2 years apart, but have exactly the same phrasing "particulars of 1st marriage unknown". They are both in the same handwriting having been filled out by the same registrar.
The informants appear to be ignorant of Charles' parents' details; that section is struck through with "unknown" and again "unknown" against Frances' mothers' maiden name.
Genealogy becomes even more interesting when it doesn't unfold smoothly. This family has proved to be so much more difficult than any of my other lines even though they were among the last to arrive in Australia and I could find them in every UK census since 1841!
I have also looked at every variation of Eliza, Elisa, Elizabeth/Jane and can only think that she had left England sometime before 1881. Your suggestion that she might have left England in employment is interesting - that could make her even less visible in the records. I would have thought Australia was the likely candidate but I may have to cast further to the USA, Canada and New Zealand....and remain optimistic  ;)
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Re: Redruth marriage - TREWRIN and WHITFORD
« Reply #10 on: Monday 19 November 12 02:11 GMT (UK) »
I just wanted to rule out that 1872 marriage definitively, in case somebody else came back to it as I did. I'd noticed that in the 1871 census your Eliza Jane was Elizabeth Jane, and wondered whether she might have exaggerated her age in order to marry. And then I couldn't find a Trevenen couple in the censuses to match.

So to start, the name was indeed Trewren.

James, son of George, a smith, and Jane, was baptised in August 1845 in Tuckingmill, born in January 1845.
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=845757
There are apparently two births for that name in Redruth reg dist in 1845.
The family is in the 1851 census in Camborne - name mistranscribed at Ancestry as Trewsco and corrected to Trewren by an Ancestry user.

Eliza Jane Whitford #2 was probably born 1845 in Redruth (which covers Camborne), and is in the 1851 census in Veryan with parents James and Ann. It looks like she died aged 26, death reg March quarter 1873, Redruth.

I'd been hopeful there for a bit, but 'twas not to be.

Yes indeed, the mystery ones are the ones that make the whole endeavour entertaining! It's nice to find the odd one of them occasionally, though. ;)
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?