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Re: Can't find a Death
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 20 November 12 09:30 GMT (UK) »

Thank you all.. YES!! I do have all on them JUST can't find Charles's death which is what i'm after..
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Pels,

No they were not still together in 1901....  so as not to confuse the issue..will leave it there
many thanks
Yonks Ago
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I know it's infuriating, but we needed to know certain details including the last place he was known to be alive - to enable us to try and find a death. As you already know, it is a common name and not easy to find.

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Re: Can't find a Death
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 20 November 12 10:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi

This is odd

I have found this marriage

West Yorkshire Marriages 1813-1935

Outwood, St Mary Magdalene

Charles Harrison, age 28, Bachelor, occ Gateman, Father John Harrison, Farmer
Sarah Armitage, age 27, Spinster, occ Weaver, Father Kelita Armitage, Miner

Witnesses her Father and Emma Armitage

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Re: Can't find a Death
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 20 November 12 10:29 GMT (UK) »
MargP,

Can i ask what are you finding odd? ..mind you all the way through out quite a few 'mistakes' ::) ::) which is why I'm holding back..
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Re: Can't find a Death
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 20 November 12 10:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi

You state that Charles married a Sarah Aveyard, it is clear from the parish record that he married a Sarah Armitage ????
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Re: Can't find a Death
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 20 November 12 10:43 GMT (UK) »
MargP,

Sarah ARMITAGE..AVEYARD..HARRISON. I think a few little pork pies..to boot.

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Re: Can't find a Death
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 20 November 12 10:48 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Can't find a Death
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 20 November 12 10:51 GMT (UK) »
William and Sarah AVEYARD had baptised three children at St Peter, Birstal:

Baptisms, 27 November 1878

Kelita (son, born 31 July 1874)
William (son, born 6 November 1875)
Jemima (daughter, born 19 November 1877)

children of William (miner) and Sarah AVEYARD, of Birstal
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Can't find a Death
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 20 November 12 23:16 GMT (UK) »




Working on the fact Sarah claimed Charles was still alive on April 5th, 1891, these are the deaths I've found which fit with an approximate birth year. I noticed 'Heywood' and 'GeoffE' both found likely birth registrations in 1851.

The 1881 claimed Charles was aged 27 years - therefore a death registration could have placed his birth year as late as 1854 if the informant wasn't entirely sure.

By process of elimination and not to say he's one of these because realistically he could be anywhere, at least it's a step in the right direction :
 

Death, Sep qtr 1893
Charles Harrison, age 39
Bolton, Vol 8c, page 369
Birth, c.1854

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Death, Sep qtr 1894
Charles Harrison, age 40
Islington, Vol 1b, page 142
Birth, c.1854

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Death, Dec qtr 1894
Charles Harrison, age 41
Warrington, Vol 8c, page 106
Birth, c.1853

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Death, Mar qtr 1895
Charles Harrison, age 42
Birmingham, Vol 6d, page 168
Birth, c.1853

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Death, Sep qtr 1895
Charles Harrison, age 43
Wharfedale, Vol 9a, page 99
Birth, c.1852

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Death, Mar qtr 1896
Charles Harrison, age 46
Edmonton, Vol 3a, page 158
Birth, c.1850

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Death, Jun qtr 1900
Charles Harrison, age 48   
Bolton, Vol 8c, page 322
Birth, c.1852

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Death, Dec qtr 1901
Charles Harrison, age 47
Aston, Vol 6d, page 228
Birth, c.1854

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Death, Sep qtr 1902
Charles Harrison, age 48
Christchurch, Vol 2b, page 386
Birth, c.1854

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Death, Mar qtr 1903
Charles Harrison, age 47
Wakefield, Vol 9c, page 47
Birth, c.1856

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Death, Jun qtr 1903
Charles Harrison, age 52
Bucklow, Vol 8a, page 118
Birth, c.1851

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Death, Mar qtr 1904
Charles Harrison, age 53
Plymouth, Vol 5b, page 180
Birth, c.1851

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I'm also wondering why Sarah and Thomas Harrison are claiming to be man and wife in 1901 - but didn't marry until 1904. Did they have to wait until they'd heard that Charles Harrison had died, meaning a death between 1901 and 1904. Or had Sarah been 'deserted' for sufficient enough years to enable them to get married.

Hope to goodness my sums are right because it's getting fairly late here.
   

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Re: Can't find a Death
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 20 November 12 23:44 GMT (UK) »




I'm also wondering why Sarah and Thomas Harrison are claiming to be man and wife in 1901 - but didn't marry until 1904. Did they have to wait until they'd heard that Charles Harrison had died, meaning a death between 1901 and 1904. Or had Sarah been 'deserted' for sufficient enough years to enable them to get married.


I'll post the details to avoid any confusion :

1901 census :
RG13/4816, Folio 80, Page 42

Northumberland, Coxlodge
41 Mary Agnes Street

Thomas Harrison, h. mar, 52, Coal Miner Hewer b. Yks, Lofthouse
Sarah Harrison, wife, mar, 50, b. Yks, Lofthouse
Kelita Harrison, son, wdr, 27, Coal Miner Hewer b. Yks,Lofthouse
Albert Harrison, son, unm, 20, Coal Miner Hewer  b. Yks,  Lofthouse
Thomas Harrison, gr.son, 4, b. Northumberland, Blyth
Joseph Harrison, gr.son3, b. Northumberland, Blyth

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Marriage, Dec qtr 1904
Thomas Harrison
Sarah Harrison
Tynemouth, Vol 10b, page 352

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