John Vincent Rosewarne

[Erato]

I need help with John Vincent Rosewarne, born about 1867 in England.  It is unknown when he entered the United States but, by 1892, he was in Wisconsin.  He married Minnie Ethelda Logan on 22 June 1892 in Marquette County, Wisconsin.  They made their way west producing children in Wisconsin, Kansas, South Dakota, Nebraska, Iowa, and Oregon.  By 1910, they had settled down in Seattle, Washington.   

I have found no death record for John Vincent however, in the 1930 census, his wife Minnie listed herself as a widow.  Nevertheless, I note that there was a John Rosewarne with wife Henrietta in Alaska in 1930, born in England in about 1870.  I can find no record of John Vincent or Henrietta Rosewarne in 1940.   But, there is a death recorded in Los Angeles in 1944 for John Vincent Rosewarne, born about 1867 in "other country."

I am looking for any evidence that my John Vincent died or was divorced in Washington before 1930.  Or any trace of his possible marriage and residence in Alaska.  Or any evidence of his possible residence in California.

**  Note:  John Vincent had a son named John Vincent Rosewarne, Jr. who was in San Diego in 1940.

[crisane]

The birth date in this death registration (which you have) matches that of John's birth date in the 1900 census when he is with Minnie and myriad children in Nebraska so I would say he is yours.
his occupations intrigue me. A baptist minister to a manager of R R News Co to Steward in a copper mine IF the John with Henrietta is yours. I can't see a John and Henrietta together in 1920 which would have eliminated them from the picture.

John Vincent Rosewarne
Social Security number 546260410
born18 Feb 1867 Other Country
Died 18 Oct 1944 in Los Angeles
Father's surname Rosewarne

Minnie died 1932 so if the John with Henrietta is yours they separated between 1920 and 1930. I'm just giving myself some background here   Saying she was a widow in 1830 saved embarrassment?
Minnie L. Rosewarne
2 Aug 1932 Seattle, King, Washington, United States
age 64 years 6 months 5 days (can't get more precise than that!)
born c 1868
Married - spouse J.Vincent Rosewarne
father -John Logan, mother -Minerva Ware

[crisane]

There is this death  and the birth date is only a couple of years out from the Henrietta's in the 1930 census (1874).

Henrietta Rosewarne
[Henrietta Riehe]
Birth   abt 1872
Death 20 Oct 1947 age 75
at Suquamish, Kitsap, Washington
Father Henry Riehe

I am getting absolutely nowhere with them for the 1940 census but an interesting search and lovely little snippets like the fact John Vincent jnr's daughter was born in China (if I have the right bloke 

[crisane]

I am now confused.
census 1894 Michigan United States. I don't have an original image
Thomas Rosewarne 50    
Olivia Rosewarne    wife 44    
John Rosewarne 17    
William Rosewarne 14    
Albert Rosewarne 11    
Olivia Rosewarne 7

But in Devon 1871 RG10/2080/54/19
Olivia Rosewarne 32 married miner's wife Illogan Cornwall
Henry 17 Illogan
Jane 8 Illogan
John 4 Buck Fast leigh Devon
William 8 months Ashburton Devon


1881 RG11/5196/96/28
Thomas Rosswarren 41 married Cranborne Cornwall
John 14 Buckfastleigh Devon
William 10 Ashburton
Albert E 8 Eskdale Cumberland
Olivia 6 Irton Cumberland

The names are the same but the ages are way out and John shouldn't be with them!  I do have the correct family? I remember seeing somewhere that John's parents were Olivia and Thomas.

I'm sorry I have got side tracked with stuff you already know. i will back off and get back on track.

[Erato]

Thanks, crisane, I hadn't spotted that death of Henrietta R. in 1947.  I am inclined to think that the man who died in LA was my John Vincent.  I wish I could find him and Henrietta in 1940 which might shed some light on the [possible] Alaska escapade.  My grandmother did not speak highly of Mr. Rosewarne [her brother-in-law] but she said nothing about his running off to Alaska with a second wife.

That is the right JVR, Jr. in 1940.  He was a career Navy man apparently.  I suppose that explains the daughter born in China.  He had originally signed up when he was under age and was brought back to the US and discharged from his ship with an excellent character rating.  Later he joined again.

[Erato]

Yes, I had seen those conflicting 1871, 1881 and 1894 censuses.  I figured that the Devon and Cornwall records were probably the right people but the Michigan bunch were doubtful.  I decided not to worry about JV's early life and concentrate on what happened once he joined my family. 

[crisane]

I'm sorry but I can't find anything else to help your search along.  Someone else may have different resources to mine. Good luck.

[shellyesq]

I found an article in the Milford (Iowa) Mail from 13 Mar. 1941 that says "Rev. J.V. Rosewarne preached two spendid sermons in the Congregational church last Sunday and on Monday evening was given a unanimous call to the church."

Edited to add:  Oops, this was in a column entitled 35 Years Ago.   

[shellyesq]

On the plus side, that did lead me to find this in the Spirit Lake (Iowa) Beacon from 2 Nov. 1906:

"Rev. J. W. Rosewarne returned from Colorado last Friday, and the family left Thursday for their new home in Seattle."

There are also some articles in Iowa newspapers referring to the death of Mrs. Rosewarne's father and her sister coming to visit, in case those are of interest.