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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 02:41 GMT (UK) »
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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 02:51 GMT (UK) »
JJ -- in Montreal --

who are the family in 1914/1915?

who is Robert that there is a widow of in 1918/1919?
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?

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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 02:56 GMT (UK) »
anneelaine you have to stop sending me private messages ;)

"Hi i can see what you are saying abot the signature.
it's just the age!  the date of birth we have is 1897or 98 for Charles"

Maybe he lied.

That would be odd, though, since Gladys's mother was born in 1895, that he would want to seem younger than her ...

But that is just a story handed down, right?
Maybe Gladys's grandmother just didn't know and thought he looked younger than Annie her mother.


The other Charles I found, from the musical family, certainly fits better age-wise.
He was an insurance clerk at age 15 though, not working in the musical instruments business.
(His father was in that business and he had died.)

Violin maker ... boiler maker ... boiler maker is certainly a lot more likely, by the odds!
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?

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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 03:02 GMT (UK) »
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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 03:12 GMT (UK) »
I'm still not clear though -- what Montreal family? not a Staveley family?

STAVERY can only be a mistake for STAVELEY.

There is only one STAVERY birth in all the English records (and no STAVEREY).
It is in Kendal district, where there were lots of Staveleys.


BUT -- this is a common pronunciation change.
(I have a FALLOWELL whose name was sometimes FARROWELL, for example.)

So maybe we should then be looking in Canada for STAVERY.

Except ... it's gone 10 pm here and I want my supper. ;)

(I wonder what time it must be where anneelaine is -- gone 3 a.m. and she's still with us?? Go to bed!)
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?

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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 03:14 GMT (UK) »
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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 03:16 GMT (UK) »
John Thomas was the name of Charles from Burnley's father (and brother).

You saw my info about the passenger records and 1891/1901 censuses too?


John Thomas Staveley married Hannah Winter 1884 Burnley.


anneelaine, if these are the right people, they are your great-grandparents.
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?

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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 03:17 GMT (UK) »
JaneyCanuck

Where did you see the passenger list for 1913 going to Halifax?

Is  the name of the ship posted.

Is it on An***ry.

Lilybell :) :)
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McCrimmon Invernesshire  Scotland

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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 03:19 GMT (UK) »
passenger list -- at findmypast

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action

I don't pay for access -- if somebody does, I expect it will say he is going to join his parents in Montereal.
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?