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Censuses - why are people missing?
« on: Thursday 17 January 13 22:54 GMT (UK) »
Please can anyone with the experience/expertise help me with reasons why ancestors might be completely missing from a census?

I know that my gg grandmother from Llanerfyl was born in the 1850s , was married in 1877 and died in 1902. However, try as I can, however imaginitively I search for her, I can find no record of her on the 1861 census.

Are there established explanations for why a person (in this case a child) would have been completely omitted? Is it a known phenomenon - have you encountered it?  Perhaps there are stats which estimate how many people may have been unrecorded. I have seen the lists of missing districts but think it highly unlikely she would have been living in them.

Would be interested in your thoughts.

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Re: Censuses - why are people missing?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 January 13 22:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi it could well be that her name/family are badly transcribed, what is her name year of birth etc and expected parents, and I am certain we will do our best to locate (If at all possible)!

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Re: Censuses - why are people missing?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 January 13 22:59 GMT (UK) »
Do you have the rest of her family or are they all missing?

If you have her family but not her, she may have been visiting relatives at the time of the census and got missed off because both parties thought the other would include her
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Re: Censuses - why are people missing?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 18 January 13 00:23 GMT (UK) »
There are parts of the 1861 Census that are missing.Mind you she doesn't show too well in 1871!

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Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
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Re: Censuses - why are people missing?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 18 January 13 00:40 GMT (UK) »
Talking of the 1871 I think this is her in Montgomeryshire-RG10/5627/37/15.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Censuses - why are people missing?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 18 January 13 08:49 GMT (UK) »
As you don't give her name, I assume that it is Susannah Jones/Rowland(s). In 1861, this might be the family that William found (previous post) :

1861 RG9/4259/97/16
Penfoel, Penrhos, Cyniwyll

Evan Rowlands, 52, ag lab, b. Llanfair
Susannah, w, 40, b. Llangadfaen
Susannah, d, 9
Mary, d, 7
John, s, 4
Jessy, d, 1
Richard, s, 1 mth
All children b. Llanerfyl


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Re: Censuses - why are people missing?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 January 13 09:14 GMT (UK) »
I'm not finding the Rowlands marriage?

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Censuses - why are people missing?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 18 January 13 09:17 GMT (UK) »
Is that the Susannah Rowlands and ? Jones or Evan Rowlands and Susannah?
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Re: Censuses - why are people missing?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 18 January 13 09:33 GMT (UK) »
I've found an 1877 one with  Susannah Rowland and Richard and Simon Jones on same page - Wrexham RD - why Wrexham though?
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