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State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
« on: Wednesday 23 January 13 06:53 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if someone can shed some light on an entry I've found which could be of interest to me

*1811 Jan 29 Letter to, instructing delivery of investment of Richard Atkins to John Laurie (Reel 6002; 4/3490D p.94

Judge-Advocate Richard Atkins features in my family as he employed my 8 x grandmother Ann Bockerah as a housekeeper after she became a widower when her convict Jewish Husband died in Sydney in 1791 [Solomon Bockerah] It is said that Richard and Ann had a daughter Penelope Atkins born 13 Feb 1793. Ann died a few days later from the child birth.. Richard erected an monument at St John's cemetery in Parramatta in her honor. Ann [Australian Womens Weekly April 1976] and Solomon had a daughter Sarah Bockerah whom married John Laurie in 24 Apr 1810 at Lane Cove. Hence my interest in the above entry/letter dated 1811
Look forward to hearing from you
Thanks for your help
Cheers
Murray Kelly
Kelly = Auckland, Galway, IRE
Sheard = NZ & Leicstr
Shearman = NZ & Cork
Ward = Thames NZ & Coventry
Elston = Devon & USA
Sonter = NSW & Kent
Chaney = NSW, NZ & Kent
Buchan(an) = NZ & Scotland
Bockerah = NSW, London & Sephardi Jew
Laurie = NSW, NZ & London
Te Kanawa = Kawhia NZ
Ford & Hatherley = Portsea
Parnell = Norfolk
Pouclee & Coutanche & Le Dain = Jersey Channel Is
Gibbs = Southland
Jackson = Ch/Ch NZ
Kingston = NZ & Somerset
Newbegin = Akaroa & Northumberland
Pownal = Stockport

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Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 January 13 08:10 GMT (UK) »
The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1803 - 1842)

is the newspaper / gazette at the time

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/title/3     which is pretty much held by the Mitchell Library in Sydney,   as with the microfilm collection listing u have found....  a snail mail to the librarian may result in an lookup or expansion of that object......

in saying that rootschat chatterer abcsydney who can be found in the chat room is familiar to that library and may , if asked go in and look that up.....

I do suggest a general index hunt within the trove site if you havent already cos an article may appear.

as for the cemetery >   (and google St Johns Cemetery cos there is often loose stuff floating)

Parramatta: St John's Cemetery


austcemindex.com/cemetery.php?id=789


the lane cove librarian also may be worth a contact >

Lane Cove Library eResources


www.lanecove.nsw.gov.au/.../Library/Operations/Connect.htm



Looking on the National Australian Archives site,  as well as the National Library of Australia site may be worthy .....

other than that I cannot be of any assistance

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Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 January 13 08:13 GMT (UK) »
***** grrr    that lane cove library link didnt get off the ground,  u may have to google that direct connect    soz

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Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 January 13 08:32 GMT (UK) »
The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1803 - 1842)

is the newspaper / gazette at the time

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/title/3     which is pretty much held by the Mitchell Library in Sydney,   as with the microfilm collection listing u have found....  a snail mail to the librarian may result in an lookup or expansion of that object......

in saying that rootschat chatterer abcsydney who can be found in the chat room is familiar to that library and may , if asked go in and look that up.....

I do suggest a general index hunt within the trove site if you havent already cos an article may appear.

as for the cemetery >   (and google St Johns Cemetery cos there is often loose stuff floating)

Parramatta: St John's Cemetery


austcemindex.com/cemetery.php?id=789


the lane cove librarian also may be worth a contact >

Lane Cove Library eResources


www.lanecove.nsw.gov.au/.../Library/Operations/Connect.htm



Looking on the National Australian Archives site,  as well as the National Library of Australia site may be worthy .....

other than that I cannot be of any assistance

 :)Thanks very much

Kelly = Auckland, Galway, IRE
Sheard = NZ & Leicstr
Shearman = NZ & Cork
Ward = Thames NZ & Coventry
Elston = Devon & USA
Sonter = NSW & Kent
Chaney = NSW, NZ & Kent
Buchan(an) = NZ & Scotland
Bockerah = NSW, London & Sephardi Jew
Laurie = NSW, NZ & London
Te Kanawa = Kawhia NZ
Ford & Hatherley = Portsea
Parnell = Norfolk
Pouclee & Coutanche & Le Dain = Jersey Channel Is
Gibbs = Southland
Jackson = Ch/Ch NZ
Kingston = NZ & Somerset
Newbegin = Akaroa & Northumberland
Pownal = Stockport

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Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 January 13 09:06 GMT (UK) »
I have also located this entry on a google search under the name Bockerah and wonder does some body out there have " Michael Flynn book"? as apprently in his book "The Second Fleet' devotes nearly a page to Ann and Solomon Bockerah. I would very much like to no what was mentioned

Cheers
Murray Kelly
 
Kelly = Auckland, Galway, IRE
Sheard = NZ & Leicstr
Shearman = NZ & Cork
Ward = Thames NZ & Coventry
Elston = Devon & USA
Sonter = NSW & Kent
Chaney = NSW, NZ & Kent
Buchan(an) = NZ & Scotland
Bockerah = NSW, London & Sephardi Jew
Laurie = NSW, NZ & London
Te Kanawa = Kawhia NZ
Ford & Hatherley = Portsea
Parnell = Norfolk
Pouclee & Coutanche & Le Dain = Jersey Channel Is
Gibbs = Southland
Jackson = Ch/Ch NZ
Kingston = NZ & Somerset
Newbegin = Akaroa & Northumberland
Pownal = Stockport

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Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 January 13 09:17 GMT (UK) »


Looking on the National Australian Archives site,  as well as the National Library of Australia site may be worthy .....


The National Archives of Australia won't have any official/government records from that time - they would all be either in State Records NSW or the State Library of NSW.  Some might be at the NLA but it would mainly be personal records you'd find there.

The Colonial Secretary's papers are held at State Records which has a copy service available for a reasonable fee: http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/indexes-online#c

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Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 January 13 11:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Murray

As requested attached is the page from the book: The Second Fleet: Britain's Grim Convict Armada Of 1790 Written By Michael Flynn.

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Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 January 13 20:12 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks again Cup of life for that interesting account of Solomon and Ann Bockerah on Michael Flynn's book 'The Second Fleet'. by chance would John Laurie be mentioned whom arrived Sydney town on the 'Fortune' in 1806?
Cheers
Murray Kelly
Kelly = Auckland, Galway, IRE
Sheard = NZ & Leicstr
Shearman = NZ & Cork
Ward = Thames NZ & Coventry
Elston = Devon & USA
Sonter = NSW & Kent
Chaney = NSW, NZ & Kent
Buchan(an) = NZ & Scotland
Bockerah = NSW, London & Sephardi Jew
Laurie = NSW, NZ & London
Te Kanawa = Kawhia NZ
Ford & Hatherley = Portsea
Parnell = Norfolk
Pouclee & Coutanche & Le Dain = Jersey Channel Is
Gibbs = Southland
Jackson = Ch/Ch NZ
Kingston = NZ & Somerset
Newbegin = Akaroa & Northumberland
Pownal = Stockport

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Re: State Records NSW - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825
« Reply #8 on: Friday 25 January 13 05:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Murray,
Index page for John LAWRENCE/John LAWRIE refer back to page 163 John LAURIE husband of Sarah in the book: The Second Fleet: Britain's Grim Convict Armada of 1790 by Michael Flynn.

These may be of interest.
Who Do You Think You Are? Magazine June 2012 page 42, has an article and Photo of John LAURIE. (The link below takes a little time to load before displaying page 42)
http://in.zinio.com/reader.jsp?issue=416221855&o=int&prev=sub&p=43

http://www.law.mq.edu.au/research/colonial_case_law/nsw/cases/important_forbes_period/
http://www.law.mq.edu.au/research/colonial_case_law/nsw/cases/case_index/1826/r_v_laurie/
http://bradleyandwinneyfamily.com/second-fleet-ternen.html

cheers :)
cupoflife