Looking for George Wicks B:1834 in Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England on 1841 Census

[PaulBol]

Hi all,

I am looking for George Wicks  B: 1834 in Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England  wife Elizabeth 1871 census.Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England.


looking for him on the 1841 Census

Found him on 1851 Parents
George Wicks    42
Mary Wicks    57

Also trying to find his wife & mothers maiden Names

any help would be great

Paul

[ballydw]

1841. Trowbridge
George 34, Mary 40, Charlotte 13, James 11, Ruth 7, George 4, Mary 3mo. James Goodman 74

[ballydw]

Marriage for George Wicks to Mary Ann Goodman 8th April 1828 Trowbridge Wiltshire

[AMBLY]

It would appear George was probably born a bit earier than 1834!

Elizabeth's age is consistent in the Census (all in Middlesbrough, N Yorkshire) as being born abt 1834. But George wavers:

1871:  RG10 / Piece: 4889 / Folio: 23 / Pg37
George: age 36, b Trowbridge abt 1835, a Labourer
Elizabeth: age 37, B Trowbridge abt 1834 - they have a lodger, William HARVEY 29,  b Frome Somerset.

1881: RG11 / Piece: 4846 / Folio: 8 / Pg9
George: age 35, b Trowbridge abt 1836
Elizabeth: age 47, b Somerset

1891: RG12/ Piece: 4004/ Folio: 18/ Pg26
George age 57 b Trowbridge abt 1834
Elizabeth age 57  B Chewton Mendip Somerset abt 1834

1901:   RG13 / Piece: 4574 / Folio: 104 / pg27
George: age 66, b Trowbridge abt 1835
Elizabeth: age 67, b Somerset

There were 2 George WICKS b abt 1834 Trowbridge.
The other one was George Riscock WICKS who  married a Mary Jane and lived in West Derby Lancashire. Online sources (trees) say his parents were Henry & Jane).

There were others too, born 1834-1836 ish - however: Another online tree, indicates your George's parents were George WICKS & Mary GOODMAN. If that is correct, then the following appears to be that family in 1841:

1841: Brick Platt, Trowbridge
HO107- Piece 1182/ Book 10/  Folio 9/ pg11
George WICKS 34, Cloth ---------, - Y
Mary WICKS 40
Charlotte WICKS 13 - Y
James WICKS 11 - Y
Ruth WICKS 7 - Y
George WICKS 4 - Y
Mary WICKS 3mths - Y
James GOODMAN 74, Weaver - Y

And does seem to agree with the 1851 you mentioned (the complete details of that 1851 Census were needed identifying the right 1841, including the fact that in  1851 George is 15 (b abt 1836, not abt 1834):
Head: George WICKS 42, Woollen Spinner
Wife: Mary WICKS 57, Woollen Spinner
Son: James WICKS 19, unm Woollen Spinner
Son: George WICKS 15, Cloth Worker
Dau: Mary WICKS 10
Visitor: Charles MATTOCK 24, unm, Gardener

I guess the question is, is the  George who married Elizabeth, definitely the son of George WICKS & Mary GOODMAN? His marriage to Elizabeth should name a father for him.

As for George & Elizabeth - their seemingly eldest son Charles b abt 1862, Middlesbrough.

This seems to be him, if he was registered under his fathers name:
IGI:  Charles WEEKS chr 27 Oct 1861, of George WEEKS & Elizabeth
FreeBMD: Charley WEEKS, Dec Qtr 1861, Stockton

His Birth Cert should give Elizabeth's ms. Or the birth certs of one of their later children (as was suggested in an earlier topic, link below in my next msg).

Cheers
AMBLY

[ballydw]

Marriage for a George Wicks to Elizabeth Gough. October 1861 Reg District Melksham Wilts
5a Page 222

[AMBLY]

Hi Ballydw
The FreeBMD marriage (Dec Qtr 1861, not October?). The two names are on the same indexed page, but that's  no proof they married each other - the Wiltshire BMD shows in fact, that George WICKS married the JARVIS woman.
http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi

Paul

In your earlier topic of July 2012: 
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=604564.0

1) You stated George b abt 1834  - and it was mentioned to you then then that this year was a little inconsistent with the census. 

2) You also stated that his mother to be Mary Ann GOODMAN!

3) The GOUGH/WICKS possible marriage of Dec 1861 was proffered. And it was  immediately shown that  George WICKS on that marriage page, did not  marry the GOUGH woman (Wiltshire BMD).

We are always happy to help and search, and even to look again -  but we need to have full disclosure on what you already have and have already looked for, to avoid 're-inventing the wheel' and spending our good time repeating what has already been done - nothing more frustrating, I'm afraid, for a searcher!  It is a good idea to always include links to previous related topics so avoid these double ups and to priovide background if we're re-looking at a problem for you.

Cheers
AMBLY

[PaulBol]

Sorry about the repeat I completely forget about this post in 2012, I have been trying get hold of a copy Charles Wicks  birth certificate and came up black, re George Wicks  son.


Charles Wicks  ( birth certificate and came up black )

    Birth 1863 in Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England
    Death Mar 1945 in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire North Riding, England

Edit this person


Thanks very much all.

Regards

Paul

[AMBLY]

Hi Paul

Charles was 9 in 1871 and 20 in 1881 - I'd definitely be looking at the Birth registration I mentioned earlier:

IGI:  Charles WEEKS chr 27 Oct 1861, of George WEEKS & Elizabeth
FreeBMD: Charley WEEKS, Dec Qtr 1861, Stockton

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

Hi Paul

I am wondering now if they may have been non-conformist? Or there is some other back-story as yet unidentified.  All of their children, bar 1, appear to me to have probably been registered as WEEKS. The only one who isn't is the last one, John, who I think is registered as WICKS and is the only one registered under Middlesbrough.

Prior to Dec Qtr 1875, the registration District should be Stockton
From Dec Qtr 1875, the registration District should be Middlesbrough

I also noted this:
In the 1871 Census they (either the family's or the enumerator's error) appear to have misnamed the 2 youngest children - it says George 3  and  Thomas 9 mths. However, in the 1881 Census Thomas is 13 and George is 11; and in the 1891 Census Thomas is 22 and George is 19. Then, in the Birth Registrations below Thomas is 1868 and George 1870).

These are the BIRTH registrations I can find on FreeBMD - and  the ones noted TVI are also
indexed on the Tees Valley Indexes (from where you can directly purchase certificates but for £11 incl postage!)
http://www.teesvalley-indexes.co.uk/

Charles 1861/62 [Dec Qtr 1861, 10a 27 - WEEKS] TVI
James  1863  [ Sep Qtr 1863, 10a 37  - WEEKS ] TVI
Alfred Edward 1865 [?Arthur Edward WEEKS? Mar Qtr 1865, 10a 40 ]
William H 1866 [ Dec Qtr 1866, 10a 60  - WEEKS] TVI
Thomas 1868 [  Sep Qtr 1868, 10a 59] TVI
George 1870 [ Sep Qtr 1870, 10a 54 - WEEKS] TVI
Harry 1872 [ Sep Qtr 1873, 10a 52  - WEEKS] TVI
Sarah Jane 1876 [ Sep Qtr 1875, 10a 106  - WEEKS] TVI
John 1880  [ Mar Qtr 1880, 9d 554 - WICKS, Middlesbrough ]

The other thing in favour of identification, is that they resided at 17 Thomas Street from 1881 to 1901 incl, and in 1871 were at 2 Thomas Street.

Cheers
AMBLY