census look up, Bates of Rugeley

[treefreak]

Anything to do with family history is worth looking in to, it's like being a detective!

Let me know if you'd like any further help.

Regards

Sandra

[RobBates]

Sandra,

If I get true this, I should get my detective license for free

any help is highly appreciated, if I could only find either one of them
in 1881 or 1891 (John and Sarah)

the lostcousins.com team will help me with the rest

I'm going to order from GRO but I have to specify
3 specific years for them to look at (which is it going to be ?!!)

wonder where I could look for widows in 1891 ?

Cheers,

Rob

[treefreak]

1881

   Dwelling:   4 Ravenhill Terr
   Census Place:   Rugeley, Stafford, England
   Source:   FHL Film 1341665     PRO Ref RG11    Piece 2779    Folio 52    Page 39
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
George WEBB   M   45    M   Rugeley, Stafford, England
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Coal Miner
Elizabeth WEBB   M   47    F   Ridware, Stafford, England
   Rel:   Wife
   Occ:   Coal Miners Wife
Thomas WEBB   U   21    M   Ridware, Stafford, England
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Coal Miner
George WEBB   U   17    M   Rugeley, Stafford, England
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Labourer
William WEBB   U   13    M   Rugeley, Stafford, England
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
Mary WEBB   U   11    F   Rugeley, Stafford, England
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Scholar
Alice WEBB       8    F   Rugeley, Stafford, England
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Scholar
John WEBB   W   74    M   Abbotts Bromley, Stafford, England
   Rel:   Father
   Occ:   Laborer
John BATES   U   24    M   Rugeley, Stafford, England
   Rel:   Lodger
   Occ:   Coal Miner

[treefreak]

If you read previous postings Rob you'll see that I've already put Sarah Williams on from the 1881.

Sandra

[Tati]

Hi Rob,

Just one little question: How sure are you that the one John Bates who can be traced right age/right birth place through the censuses (at one point married to Isabella) and who has a brother named Adam is not your man? Is your information source 100% reliable, according to you?

Tanja      

[RobBates]

Tanja,

I've been in touch with the Grand daughter of Arthur Amison Bates,
son of Isabella.

John Bates (Isabella's John) died in 1904 but they had more children
like in 1892 and 1895 and even in 1901.

So either he had a double life or he is not the one (which is what I think)
check this web site address for details, maybe I've forgot to overlook something:
http://www.amisonfamilytree.co.uk/paf-files/thomas-amison/pafg09.htm#421

I was lucky to have found that and being able to talk with a Carroline (gdaughter)

Cheers,

Rob

[Tati]

Well, if she's positive about this... Do I understand that Isabella and John emigrated (leaving son Arthur behind?) or why can't she be found in 1901? 
Oh, whatever!!
Hope you'll solve this mystery.

Tanja 

[RobBates]

Yes they did around 1907, well she did with 4 of her children !
after John had died (most of the Amison where in the US)

Arthur remained behind and even changed his name back to Amison after her mother told him, before he got married, that he was born out of wedlock.
(John not being the father)

So that his precise enough, ain't it ?!!

even if I have a hard time finding the right track, what an adventure this his
getting to be !!!

just hope there is no "murder" mystery to solve on the way (joke !)

have a nice evening Tanja,

Rob