BRECK, THOR MATTISON - Possible to snap pic. of grave in Hillsborough, Auckland?

[Magne]

God dag!

Will PM now!

M

[spades]

Images sent.

[Magne]

I have now studied the images you sent me Spades!

Two points:

1. They are much more helpful than what Archives belatedly sent.

This is a Dropbox link to Thor's naturalisation (ca. 7 MB): https://www.dropbox.com/s/flfaajy70klqplb/Breck%20Naturalisation.pdf

Question: Are these images and the previous image from Archives part of the same original file, or are these two different files?

2. The images I got from Spades (in the link) reveal that Thor had resided 14 years in NZ in 1893. He must have come to NZ around 1879. This is very interesting and closes a huge gap in his CV. But from where did he come and exactly when

Magne

[Janette]

Hi Magne,

There is a tree on Mundia with the spelling Thore Mattsson Bräck do you have contact with this person,Should we be looking at this alternative spelling?

Cheers Janette

[Magne]

Hi, Janette!

Thank you for your post. I think I know of the tree you mention.

And good point: This and other alternative spellings can be both found and used in the search for Thor.

Magne

[spades]

Goddag Magne,

Question: Are these images and the previous image from Archives part of the same original file, or are these two different files?

They seem to be two different files. Very interesting.

Can you provide the Archives New Zealand reference and their description for the 'previous image', please?

Spades

[TwiggyTree]

One is the "Letter of Naturalisation" and the other is the "Naturalisation File".  Most times the later contains the former.  The numbers do correlate.  Magne's letter has '93/2212'.  The file has IA 1 1893/2212.  As far as I am aware these are 2 different series.

added:

Letters http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewEntity.do?code=8377 were former reference IA53

Files? http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewEntity.do?code=8375 were formerly IA1


This may prove useful for the future - a register http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewEntity.do?code=4495

[Magne]

God kveld, Spades and TwiggyTree!

Your question, Spades: I exchanged emails with Archives concerning this topic and they used this reference:

"I checked in the Register of Persons Naturalised before 1948 [Archives Reference: IA 52/26, REPRO 1646 & 1647] and found the following entry.
 
Breck, Thor Matison     [Age] 41     [Born] Skesoken     [Nationality] Swedish
 
Miner, Brighton, Westport.     [Date of naturalisation] 30 September 1893     [File number] 1893/2212
 
We should be able to locate and copy this file for you [Archives Reference: IA 1 18933/2212]."

Does this shed light on the question I mentioned earlier?

Magne

[Magne]

I have received an email from Archives concerning the confusion surrounding Thor's naturalisation:

"What I sent you was a copy of the Certificate of Naturalisation for Thor Matison Breck, which comes from the IA 1 series of Naturalisation certificates. The documents your other researcher has provided you with are the letters of application for naturalisation, which are from the series IA 53. These are supporting documents for the certificate, and are not the 'official' record of naturalisation.
 
I interpreted your request as being for a copy of the Certificate, as this is what our researchers are usually after. Supplying the records from IA 53 as well as the Certificate would have resulted in an increased research charge, as they are two separate records. I apologise for the confusion over this request however, as it might not have been clear what kinds of naturalisation records we hold here at Archives NZ."