elliot,mosspeeble,ewes,

[elliotnz]

i am looking for help pretty pleeb,on information on thomas elliot and his twin sister lillie born in mosspeeble,ewes in round 1893. on thomas' marriage certificate it says his mother was elizabeth elliot nee elliot and his father john elliot.  however we were always told that they were illegit.  all i know of their mother is that she was a domestic servant who apparently got kbocked up by the head of the household she worked in. it all very confusing stuff,  and am hoping someone maybe able to help.  lillie and tom both ended up moving to nz.  tom just before ww1 and lillie toward the end ( i think )  thanks so much all..

[Chasing-fireflies]

Could this be Lillie? birth date:    14 Sep 1891
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XT6Z-VLZ

Thomas? 14 Sep 1891
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XT6Z-VYM

Both found by searching "Langholm" which is a few miles from Ewes

[Gadget]

Hi

In 1901, they are boarding in the household of Thomas Vitich in Gretna:

Headless Cross, Gretna

Thomas Vitich, widr, 61, Church Officer, b Gretna
James Thomson, son in law, 29, gen lab, b. Kirkpatrick Flm (Fleming)
Georgina Thomson, d, 25, b. Gretna
James Thomson, grdson, 5, b. -do-
Ez(?) Louisa grdd, 2, b. Kirpatrick Fleming
Lillie Elioy, boarder, 9, b. Langholm
Thomas Elliot, boarder, 9, b. -do-
Dickson, boarder, unm, 37, retired joiner, b. Eskdalemuir


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[Gadget]

A possible for their mother (and father):

1891

Mosspeeple, Ewes

Thomas Scott Elliot, unm,40,  farmer, b. Castleton, Rox
Elizabeth Elliot, unm, 30 housekeeper, unm, b. England
Thomas Bell, servant, 20, b. Canonbie

brevitas

(and welcome to RootChat  )

[Chasing-fireflies]

Could this be a possible birth of the unmarried father I wonder?

Thomas Scott Elliot b. 08 Jul 1850 parents: james Elliott and Margaret Little


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTBB-96J

Marriage for the parents: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYQR-TH3

[Gadget]

Could this be a possible birth of the unmarried father I wonder?

Thomas Scott Elliot b. 08 Jul 1850 parents: james Elliott and Margaret Little


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTBB-96J

Date fits with his census age 


In 1881

Moss Peebles, Ewes
Thomas S Elliot, unm, 29, farmer of 5000 acres, 60 arable - employing 6 men/women & 1 boy, Castleton
James, bro, unm, 25, farmer, b. Langholm
Jane S, sis, unm, 27, farmer's sister, b. Castleton
Agnes Grieve, serv, wid, 40, gen servant, b. -do-
William Sadler, serv, mar, 57, farm servant, b. Annan
William Thomson, serv, unm, 17, farm servant, b. Langolm


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[Chasing-fireflies]

Siblings possibly of the unmarried father:

John: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYWN-Y9P
William:https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTBB-S88
Jane Scott:https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTBB-HQ2


Not so sure about this but Henry: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBM4-QPF

[jennifer c]

Looks like he could be married retired farmer by the 1901 census, hence children farmed out?

Jennifer

[Gadget]

Having probs finding Lillie on the 1911 in Scotland 

Elizabeth, their mother is difficult to find in 1901 and no death in Scotland before that