Fobbing - Parish Marriages & Census Help Please

[DavidJP]

Hi all,

My Laver family is causing me a real headache & heres hoping that someone can help with at least this part of it!

My 4x gt grandmother Elizabeth Simpson/Porter/Laver/Staff (yes, she did marry & bury 3 husband's!!) was born abt 1795-1801 i believe in Fobbing, ages seem to vary on records!

She married William Porter (as Simpson) on 5th June 1824 in Fobbing. William was buried 6th Jan 1828. She next married my 4x gt grandfather Joseph Laver on 11th Oct 1840 in Fobbing. Joseph died 6th Sept 1842 in Corringham. She married for 3rd & final time in 1st Qtr 1853 to John Staff, probably in Fobbing as well. (she appears never to have left the village!) Elizabeth died in 1874 in fobbing.

Could sks look up Elizabeth's 3 marriages for me please?

Also i have not been able to locate Elizabeth (Laver as she would be at this time) on the 1851 census, despite many hours & days etc of looking!. Could someone see if they can see her please?

I have Elizabeth in both 1861 & 71.

Many thanks in advance.

Kind regards

David

[jomcd967]

Hi David,

I can't find the marriages but I found Elizabeth (b1801) & Joseph (b1806) in 1841. if you have access to Ancestry they are transcribed as Louer! Living with them is Robt Louer (b1806), Willm Porter (b1826) & Mary Larus (b1833). Good luck with guessing that version of Laver!

Cheers, Jo 

[jomcd967]

Considering the Mary 1833 above: was Joseph married previously? Is there any chance that Joseph & Elizabeth were married earlier than 1840? It seems a long time between her 1st & 2nd marriage?

[suffolk*sue]

St. Michael, Fobbing

William Porter
Elizabeth Simpson
both single and of the parish
by banns
5th June, 1824
witnesses
Emma Barnard
Samuel Simpson

=======

Joseph Laver, bachelor
Elizabeth Porter, widow
both of the parish
by banns
11th October, 1830
witnesses
James Shuttleworth
James Smith

=============

St. Mary the Virgin, Corringham

John Staff,widower,labourer,father John Staff,labourer
Elizabeth Laver,widow,father John Simpson,labourer
both of full age and from Fobbing
January 31st, 1853
witnesses
John Kempster
Ann Kempster
William James Grover

[DavidJP]

Hi Jo & Suffolk*Sue,

Many thanks indeed for your replies, very much appreciated indeed!

Jo, thank you that's definately them! Louer/Larus!! Good grief no wonder i couldn't find them!!

Suffolk*Sue, many thanks for those, i now know Elizabeth's father's name, which i didn't before, brilliant!

I just have to find Elizabeth in 1851 & husband John Staff in 1861 now!!

Many thanks once again.

Kind regards

David

[louisa maud]

1871 living Fobbing
1655 folio 16 page 6
Elizabeth Staff
widow
NK where born
occ looks like Nurse
age 74

Can't find her so far on 1861

Louisa Maud

[DavidJP]

Hi Louisa Maud,

Many thanks for that, that's certainly her in 1871. In 1861 she's a servant in the local Public House in Fobbing! Ref: RG9/1074/115/8 & 9. It's over 2 pages. A Samuel Wade is Victualler & Barge (Owner?)

It's only 1851 that i'm missing for Elizabeth now & 1861 for husband no3 John Staff. The odd thing is that although Elizabeth is married in 1861 she isn't living with husband John & he seems to have completely disappeared! Also she's shown as a widow in 1871 & as yet i have been unable to find a death record for John Staff!

Many thanks again.

Kind regards

David

[louisa maud]

I wonder why Elizabeth married at St Mary's Corringham if it is shown they were both from Fobbing, these 2 churches, St Michael's Fobbing and St Mary's Corringham  are next door to each other and share a priest in charge now, it wasn't till about 7 years ago that this was so, up until then I believe they had their own parish priest, did she live in Corringham for awhile, hence the marriage at St Mary's

If you google "White Lion Fobbing" it shows you what the pub looks like now, probably nothing like it was in Elizabeth's time

Louisa Maud

Elizabeth and her previous husbands are most probably buried in St Michael's Fobbing

[louisa maud]

1851
I have put just "Elizabeth " born 1800 plus or minus 5 years on census check, born Fobbing and  only 1 comes up on
H0107/1773 FOLIO 287 PAGE 23
Living in Lion Terrace aged 50, widow, inn keeper and barge owner, the name looks like BOGUE , strange she seems to have disappeared, can't find John Staff on 1851 either,do you know where he was born ?
LM