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Offline polidor

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4 sisters hiding? or married
« on: Thursday 14 March 13 17:27 GMT (UK) »
Can any of these girls have got married?

Betsy b 1831--Rebecca b 1836--Lucy b 1838--Ann b 1839

Surname SMART all born Shearsby Leicestershire, parents Moore and Jane.

1841 census all 4
1851  census Rebecca,Lucy, Ann   
1861 census Ann,

In the 1851 Lucy is down as Grandaughter? in the 1841 as female.

I have looked for possible deaths and only came up with Lucy as a 'maybe' in Leicestershire 1861 am assuming then that the other 3 married but cannot find any leads.
 
They had 2 brothers John b 1833   and Ruben b 1840 haven't had much luck with those 2 either!

These are half siblings of my 2nd Gt Grandfather Thomas b Shearsby c 1806 parents Moore and 1st wife Mary.

I am not sure where else to look for clues as to the whereabouts of any of them,  any suggestions welcome. :) poli
Behling---- London
Bridges---- London
Copperwheat----Bedfordshire---Norfolk
Denton----Bedfordshire
Edwards----Wales
Evans----N.Wales
Farrow----Norfolk
Hughes----N.Wales
Jones----Wales---Bedfordshire
Lambert----London
Larmouth/uth----London
Ostler----Norfolk
Sherwood----Bedfordshire
Silver----Bedfordshire---Suffolk
Smart----Leicestershire---Middx
Teagle----Buckinghamshire---Wales
Totterdell----Hampshire---London---Stoke-On-Trent
Woods----London

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Re: 4 sisters hiding? or married
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 March 13 18:17 GMT (UK) »
Have you already discounted the 1866 marriage for a Lucy Smart in Lutterworth?

And this one from the IGI

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Re: 4 sisters hiding? or married
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 March 13 18:26 GMT (UK) »
There's a death  for an Elizabeth Smart  Lutterworth RD  in 1854,  which  MAY be Betsy ( unfortunately   ages weren't  put  on the indexes till the 1860's )

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Re: 4 sisters hiding? or married
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 14 March 13 18:33 GMT (UK) »
You can rule her out.  Burial record shows her as aged 71
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Re: 4 sisters hiding? or married
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 March 13 18:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi their is a marriage of a William Draper Freer to an Ann Smart March qtr 1864 Lutterworth 7a 15 they are on 1881 RG11/3116/68/5 and 1871 RG10/3222/57/20 on both returns Ann is born Shearsby

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Re: 4 sisters hiding? or married
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 14 March 13 18:47 GMT (UK) »
 1861 census  has an R Smart    a Soldier  in Aldershot ,   his age  is out 2  years  for a 1840   birth  ,   but that  could  be Rueben ,( if  you were looking for him too)
Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 431; Folio: 187; Page: 8;

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Re: 4 sisters hiding? or married
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 March 13 19:03 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks to Carole W, jan57, keyboard 86.

A few ideas here for me to follow up.I've been dipping in and out of this branch of the Leicestershire SMART family for many moons, it gets so that i go round in circles  ::)

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Behling---- London
Bridges---- London
Copperwheat----Bedfordshire---Norfolk
Denton----Bedfordshire
Edwards----Wales
Evans----N.Wales
Farrow----Norfolk
Hughes----N.Wales
Jones----Wales---Bedfordshire
Lambert----London
Larmouth/uth----London
Ostler----Norfolk
Sherwood----Bedfordshire
Silver----Bedfordshire---Suffolk
Smart----Leicestershire---Middx
Teagle----Buckinghamshire---Wales
Totterdell----Hampshire---London---Stoke-On-Trent
Woods----London

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Re: 4 sisters hiding? or married
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 14 March 13 20:49 GMT (UK) »
Is Lucy possibly a daughter of Thomas, John or Christopher? wasn't sure if you had their baptisms and I am totally off the mark :)

I was looking at the baptisms for the first marriage on IGI and also have a marriage to hand

Shearsby   12-Dec   1825   Banns   
Christopher   Smart   Of This Parish            
Sarah   Randle   Of This Parish
Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: 4 sisters hiding? or married
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 14 March 13 21:06 GMT (UK) »
I put in a search for Reuben and wonder if John is in Missouri, there's a Reuben with them 1860, occ bricklayers to begin with

1860
Home in 1860:    St Louis, St Louis, Missouri
Gender:    Male
Post Office:    Carondelet
John Smart    27
Mary Smart    30
Thomas M Smart    8
Mary Jane Smart    6
William Smart    2
Reuben Smart    21

1870
Home in 1870:    St Louis Ward 12, St Louis, Missouri
Gender:    Male
Post Office:    Saint Louis
Thon Smart    37...John
Mary Smart    40
Thomas Smart    18.....as Thomas Moore Smart on a tree..found when searching the links by the census returns

1880
Home in 1880:    Saint Louis, St Louis (Independent City), Missouri
John Smart    46
Mary Smart    52
William Smart    22
Mary Smart    16
William Smart    12
Anney Smart    10
Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives