Baptism for same person at both COI AND RC

[kptz]

Hi,

Why would a family baptize their children at both COI and RC churches?  My 2nd great-grandparents were living in Dublin at least from 1871, when they married.  They had 6 children, five born and baptized in Dublin.  One of the children born in Ireland died shortly after baptism.  Three of the children were baptized at St. Mary (COI) as well as St. Michan (RC).  I could only find a COI baptism for the William and only a RC for Catherine Agnes.  I know they are these are all same children - addresses and parents are the same.

Mary Ellen Patterson  1872-1912  COI & RC
Elizabeth Patterson  1873-1959  COI & RC
William Thomas Patterson  1875- ?      COI
Agnes Patterson   1877-1877  COI & RC
Catherine Agnes Patterson 1879-1970  RC only

The last child, John was born in Liverpool.

Any guidance is greatly appreciated.

kptz

[shanew147]

I've seen the same dual baptisms for a family, a couple of times, and in one case  RC & CofI baptisms of a child took place on the same day.

I would think  the most common reason would be that the parents were mixed denominations. Sometimes the children were split between RC and CofI baptisms - e.g. the girls in the mother's denomination, the boys in the father's..


Shane

[kptz]

thanks, shane.  perhaps it is the father who was COI - all the children were married in RC churches in Liverpool.  I am still trying to unravel the lineage of the parents, John Patterson and Mary Gaynor.

appreciate your time!

[shanew147]

thanks, shane.  perhaps it is the father who was COI - all the children were married in RC churches in Liverpool.  I am still trying to unravel the lineage of the parents, John Patterson and Mary Gaynor.

appreciate your time!

what denomination church was the parents marriage in ?

mixed RC / CofI marriages would have been in a CofI church.


S.

[shanew147]

see the marriage was mentioned in an earlier post - registry office, so could have been mixed denomination



S.

[kptz]

thanks, Shane --

I have a copy of the marr cert - 30 Sep 1871 - married at the Registrars Office - according to the provisions of the Act of Victoria Chap 81 (I think).  The groom lived at 45 Bolton St, Parish of Mary, city of Dublin; the bride lived at 1 Frederick Court (cant read the rest), Parish of George, City of Dublin.  Father of groom, William, was a carter; father of ride, Thomas, was a weaver.

So wuld this mean its a mixed marriage?

Thanks again,
kate

[shanew147]

Registry office marriages dont record denominations so no way to be 100% certain, but the mixed baptisms plus the lack of a church marriage suggest a mixed RC/CofI marriage. You would have to try to trace the families back in time to see if you could work out which partner is which denomination.

link to previous topic : John Patterson/Mary Gaynor - family look-up please


S.

[annclare]

Hi,

 " I could only find a COI baptism for the William"

This seems to be William's RC baptism
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/197f330114878
also if you go to the baptismal page there is a note saying father is not a Catholic

annclare

[kptz]

Thank you Shane.  I remember your help and suggestions when I first started with this.  Since that time I obtained the death certificate for John - but not really close to finding birth information.  If I assume they followed the naming patterns, I assume his mother's name is Elizabeth, however I don't know for sure. I have limited information about my 2nd ggf and ggm.  I do know she remarried after his death in 1900. As you pointed out, neither of the certificates give the birth, only age at time of death.

Thank you anclare.  I did not see that entry. Thanks also for telling me what the note said - I could not decipher it when I looked at it.

kate