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Ilminster speculation on history please
« on: Tuesday 09 April 13 13:56 BST (UK) »
Hi RCers

I am asking here for some guesses and speculation please - I know I will never know the right answer to my question.

In 1857 21-year old tailor George Wootten upped from Ilminster and went to Plymouth and joined the Royal Marines.  Do any of you have any local history knowledge that would suggest why he would do that? Were there economic problems in Ilminster at the time? Any connections with sea-faring? Recruitment campaigns?

Perhaps he was just a young man in search of adventure.  But I wondered if anyone with knowledge of the local area might know some context that might illuminate . . .

I have his RM records and other stuff about him - he continued to be a tailor in the marines.

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Harlemswife
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Re: Ilminster speculation on history please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 21 April 13 09:13 BST (UK) »
If you are able to access The Times Digital Newspaper Archive, either online or via your local library, there are some interesting exchanges in 1853 with Somerset Clergymen vying to establish who had encountered the lowest rate of pay for good ablebodied day-labourers with families:  'only 6s.a-week and three pints of wretched drink (beer or cider) a-day, or 7s. without any drink?'  [Letters to the Editor, Oct 27, 1853;  pg 7;  Issue 21570;  col B Agricultural Wages.]

Four sons of an Ag lab in Combe St Nicolas, an adjacent parish to Ilminster, migrated to Wales in the 1850s - presumably attracted by the wages of the coal and iron industries.  Only one returned to the home parish some 20-odd years later. 

If the majority of the local population were living on the breadline, there would not be a great demand for the services of tailors.  However,  the armed forces had a great need for uniforms so your tailor might have been recruited for the skills of his trade or have been tempted by prospective earnings and the opportunity to travel the world.  At the age of 21 he would have completed his long apprenticeship so he might have wanted to shake the dust of Ilminster off his feet.  What had been a bustling market town in the 'golden era' of coaching began its decline after the rail link reached Exeter in 1844.  Not all coaches were taken off the road immediately, but the wind of change was starting to blow through the West Country, with easier access to Plymouth and the Metropolis.  Might the attractions of the scarlet coat have outweighed those of the local wenches?  Who knows?
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Ilminster speculation on history please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 April 13 14:39 BST (UK) »
Dee-Jay

Many thanks for your thoughts here. You certainly paint a plausible picture. I think I tend to forget that things were hard for Aglabs. I like to look at GoogleEarth when I can get addresses for my ancestors from censuses. Often I find old buildings that were probably there in 1850 or 1860. And country villages look so idyllic now, so I wonder why they left these beautiful places. But then I remember that things were so hard in the country that people actually found it better to move to the big industrial towns. I also thought that being a tailor would mean George had a trade and could earn a living. But,  then, as now, if things were hard for the working classes, the middle classes would suffer because there would be little demand for their goods and services. So perhaps Plymouth looked good, especially if one could get as far as Exeter in the train.

Many thanks for these ideas.

Harlemswife
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Northumberland.  Bell,Cullen,Noon,Hall