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Dr Thomas Collingwood
« on: Wednesday 10 April 13 17:16 BST (UK) »
My 3x-great-grandfather, Thomas Collingwood is a bit of a mystery, and one of the brick walls I really want to break down on my tree. Perhaps the clever folk here can help. Here is what I know about him:

He was born in 1821 in England. I do not actually know where in England, I cannot find a baptism for him and he doesn't appear in any England & Wales census records. His parents were William Dixon Collingwood and Phoebe Boyles.

In married Eliza Smith on the 30th September 1847 in Ainstable, Cumberland. I have this marriage certificate. His occupation is listed as Gentleman. His father, William Dixon Collingwood, was a Captain in the Army (I have managed to track the Collingwoods further back, and know more about previous generations than Thomas!)

His son William Dixon Collingwood (named after his grandfather) was born in 1848 in Newcastle upon Tyne. Thomas' profession was listed again as a Gentleman.

In 1850 sailed to the USA from Liverpool on the ship Camillus with his wife Eliza and his son William. They arrived in New Orleans on the 10th April 1850.

They can be found in the 1850 US census living in St Charles, Missouri.

His daughter, Agnes Eliza Phoebe Collingwood (my great-great-grandmother) was born on the 3rd October 1852 in Ainstable, Cumberland, England. On Agnes' birth certificate, Thomas occupation was listed as a Surgeon, a family profession.

Eliza can be found in the 1861 UK census living as a widow with her two children, William and Agnes, in Ainstable. She would later go on to have two more children, Mary and Harry, illegitimately.



My guess is that Thomas died in America in 1850 or 1851, and (a possibly pregnant) Eliza and her son came back to England on their own. I cannot find, or even know where to look to find death records for Missouri to prove this.

As Eliza can only be found widowed by 1861, it's possibly they all came back together and Thomas died in England, but I cannot find any matching deaths for Thomas.

Can anyone provide any insight or ideas on how to find out more?

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Re: Dr Thomas Collingwood
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 April 13 17:49 BST (UK) »
There are some links for Missouri death records here:
http://www.deathindexes.com/missouri/index.html

I don't see him on a quick look, but I suspect coverage for that time is spotty.

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Re: Dr Thomas Collingwood
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 April 13 18:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks. Hardly any of those links seem to include St Charles County. Even the "Missouri, Death Records, 1834-1910" collection on Ancestry seems to omit St Charles. I may have to contact the St Charles County Historical Society who can perform research on my behalf.

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Re: Dr Thomas Collingwood
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 10 April 13 18:38 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage record for a Thomas Collingwood and Margaret Walsh on 20 Jan. 1862 in Buchanan, Missouri.  Unfortunately, it doesn't give any personal information to rule your guy in or out and I can't seem to place any other Thomas Collingwoods in the area at the time.

In the 1880 Census, there is a Margaret Collingwood, widow, living in Santa Cruz, California.  She was age 49, born Ireland, and living with daughter Sophia, age 17, born Missouri, father born Canada.    ???

There are possible matches for this Margaret & Sophie on findagrave.com here - http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSln=Collingwood&GSiman=1&GScid=1988298&  However, there doesn't appear to be a date of death on Margaret's stone, and some of the added information may be inaccurate.

There is a 1900 obituary for Mrs. M. Collingwood in Santa Cruz on this index - http://www2.santacruzpl.org/history/oldnews/mtecho.php

Anyway, I may be barking up the wrong tree, but it's possible that Eliza wasn't really a widow and that's why she didn't marry the father of her subsequent children.


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Re: Dr Thomas Collingwood
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 April 13 18:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks, I suppose its always possible that Thomas bigamously married in Missouri, with Eliza and William heading back to England. Whether she actually was a widow, or just pretending to be. The two children she had in 1866 and 1867 had no father listed on the birth certificates, so definitely weren't Thomas' children.

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Re: Dr Thomas Collingwood
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 12 July 14 04:09 BST (UK) »
My gt gt grandmother was Ann Smith/Mitton, bn 1837 Ainstable.
Her older sister was Eliza who married Thomas Collingwood.
Would you know anymore about the ancestors of the Smiths?
Eliza and Ann's parents were Henry Smith and Agness Atkinson.
Henry (and brother Horatio Joseph and sister Elizabeth Sarah)'s dad was Joseph.
I had thought they came from London but apparently they came from Ainstable.

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Re: Dr Thomas Collingwood
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 12 July 14 07:43 BST (UK) »
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