Marriage record - Hamilton to Blaylock - possibly Hexham about 1835

[Morris2013]

Hi

I am trying to find some record of a marriage circa 1835/1836. 

I have posted this here as it seems most likely the marriage was in the Hexham area of Northumberland

A Samuel Hamilton (1815 -1885)  married an Elizabeth Blaylock (1814-1862)

The couple are on several trees on Ancestry and none of us have been able to find a record of the marriage.

Although they settled in Carlisle, Cumberland  and one or other of them may have been from Cumberland, (probably Elizabeth) their first three children were born in Hexham.

They may have been married elsewhere but it seems more likley that they married in the Hexham area

Samuel Hamilton later worked as a clay pipe maker in Carlisle, but the George Hamilton (b about 1781)  his father,  and the George Hamilton (b 1806) his brother both seem to have been clay pipe makers in Hexham in the 1841 Census.

If anyone can help I would be most grateful.

Kind Regards

Morris

[rosie99]

I have posted this here as it seems most likely the marriage was in the Hexham area of Northumberland

A Samuel Hamilton (1815 -1885)  married an Elizabeth Blaylock (1814-1862)

The couple are on several trees on Ancestry and none of us have been able to find a record of the marriage.

Although they settled in Carlisle, Cumberland  and one or other of them may have been from Cumberland, (probably Elizabeth) their first three children were born in Hexham.

They may have been married elsewhere but it seems more likley that they married in the Hexham area

Samuel Hamilton later worked as a clay pipe maker in Carlisle, but the George Hamilton (b about 1781)  his father,  and the George Hamilton (b 1806) his brother both seem to have been clay pipe makers in Hexham in the 1841 Census.

If anyone can help I would be most grateful.

For anyone looking - Census consistently give Cumberland/ Carlisle as the place of birth for Samuel & Elizabeth.  Their first child Catherine was born in Hexham c1837, their next Mary in Newcastle 1839.  By 1841 the family were back in Cumberland

Rosie 

[trish1120]

Looks like 1st Son was George who didnt live long;

GEORGE Hamilton Baptised 23 March 1838, St Andrew, Hexham, Northumberland
Parents, SAMUEL/ELIZABETH
Fathers Occp Pipe Maker
Buried 24 March 1838 same Church, age 7 days

GEORGE Hamilton same Church, 28 May 1850, age 73, abode Hexham

On FreeREG

Cant find Marriage anywhere, maybe never Married?

Did you get Elizabeths maiden name as Blaycock from a Childs Birth Cert?

Trish

[Morris2013]

Hi Trish

Thank you. Elizabeth's maiden surname Blaylock came from a Family Bible belonging to her daughter, which lists the dates of birth of Samuel and Elizabth and all of their children but not the date of the parents marriage.   Also on one daughter's birth record the mother's maiden surname is given as Blaylock

I had wondered if Elizabeth's maiden surname might originally have been Blacklock or Blalock, and subsequently evolved,  but we had no luck searching the usual indexes under variations.

Thanks for finding the death of the child George and also the burial for George Snr.

I guess it's possible they were never formally married but all their children were christened....it is more likely that they were married I think.


Hi Rosie

Thanks.  You are quite right about the later census returns recording both Samuel and Elizabeth stating they were born in Cumberland.  In the 1841 census the eldest children are recorded as having been born in Carlisle, but later recorded as born in Northumberland which is  where the birth records are from. I am not sure how reliable the place of birth on the census returns may be

Catherine the eldest child was born in Hexham  Nov 1836.  George was born in Hexham in 1838, and Mary in 1839  Newcastle.

I thought it reasonable to at least try to find some record of the marriage in Hexham particularly as Samuel's father George Hamilton Snr was in Hexham as was Samuel's brother George

Kind Regards

Morris

[rosie99]

In the 1841 census the eldest children are recorded as having been born in Carlisle, but later recorded as born in Northumberland which is  where the birth records are from.

Census are very often inaccurate with places of birth as we have all found to our cost. 

The 1841 census for the family however has them resident in Cumberland both Samuel and Elizabeth are marked as Y (born in Cumberland) Catherine and Mary however have a N (not born in Cumberland) then the next child has a Y. 

Have you considered looking for a Scottish marriage as they are near the border   

[Morris2013]

Hi Rosie 

Thanks. I did check Scotland. No luck.

The searching had mainly been for a marriage record in Cumberland, until the records of the childrens birth in Northumberland were found, and then Samuel's father and brother there too.

Poor Elizabeth was kept busy. 15 children between 1835 and 1862. 4 seem to have died as children.

What I am not sure I really understand, is that if both Samuel and Elizabeth were born in Carlisle, then why the Northumberland connections ? ...the two places are on opposite sides of the country and people did not move so freely back then as they do now. 

I suppose coincidence is possible and the George and Mary who are recorded as parents at Samuels' baptism are different from the George Hamilton a pipemaker and his wife Mary living in Northumberland....but Samuel and Elizabeth's children being born in Northumberland makes that even less likely.

[rosie99]

Hi Morris

For what it's worth I think you have the right parents for Samuel in 1841.     

Do you have information on George juniors marriage it may give a clue as to where Samuel could have married

Rosie 

[JenB]

What I am not sure I really understand, is that if both Samuel and Elizabeth were born in Carlisle, then why the Northumberland connections ? ...the two places are on opposite sides of the country and people did not move so freely back then as they do now. 

Hope you don't mind if I poke my nose in to say that they aren't exactly on opposite sides of the country   and Hexham is only some 40 miles from Carlisle. People were far more mobile then than we give them credit for. And by 1838 there was also a railway linking the two places.

[trish1120]

George appears to have been born c 1807 Scotland and Wife Elizabeth c 1809 Carlisle, Cumberland (1861 Census)

1851 their 1st Son Samuel is born c 1836 Carlisle, next Child born Northumberland
1841 1st Child is Elizabeth c 1833, not born in County