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Joseph Cotey and John Nicholson
« on: Wednesday 17 April 13 17:24 BST (UK) »
Hello, I am trying to find some information about two Parkhurst boys from Québec city, Lower Canada: Joseph Cotey (Côté) and John Nicholson. They arrived in Auckland, New Zealand on the St George in 1842. What happened to them after 1842? When and where did they die?

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Re: Parkhurst boys 1842 - Joseph Cotey and John Nicholson
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 April 13 20:30 BST (UK) »
Hi vickylapointe,

Are you sure these two arrived from Canada to NZ as part of the Parkhurst scheme?  The reason I ask is that our Archives state that the boys were from Parkhurst Prison in England and nowhere else.

I can't see any deaths listed for "Cotey", "Cotee" or "Cote" on our BDMH website up to 1962.

In 1963 there is a lone COTE death for a Jane aged 81Y.

What were the birth dates for these boys?

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Re: Parkhurst boys 1842 - Joseph Cotey and John Nicholson
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 April 13 01:34 BST (UK) »
They were born around 1824.

HO 9/13. Letter book for the Justitia convict hulk. (National Archives UK)  convicts no 3260 and 3261. Recv from Canada 19th july 1837. Convicted of larceny in Quebec 22nd march 1837. Sentence: 7 years of transportation. How disposed of: Eurys, July 21st, 1827

HO 9/10. Letter book for the Euryalus convict hulk (National Archives UK) convicts no 2851 and 2852. Convicted of larceny in Quebec 22nd march 1837. Sentence: 7 years of transportation. How disposed of: Parkst prison  18 nov. 1838.

They are mentioned here: http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/park1.html

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Re: Parkhurst boys 1842 - Joseph Cotey and John Nicholson
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 April 13 02:36 BST (UK) »
Quote from: vickylapointe on Wednesday 17 April 13 17:24 BST (UK)

Joseph Cotey (Côté)


Hi

Isn't the abovenamed listed as "Joseph COLEY"  in the link you provided.  ??

   ~  Lu


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Re: Joseph Cotey and John Nicholson
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 April 13 03:37 BST (UK) »
Ok, so they were taken from Canada to Parkhurst, then transported to NZ.

Archives says the following "The St George in 1842 brought 92 boys and another 31 came on the Mandarin in 1843, making a total of 123."  Most of the boys are listed in the "General Biographical Index"  [Bio 1].  So we would at least see the spelling of their names there. 
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Re: Joseph Cotey and John Nicholson
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 April 13 03:45 BST (UK) »
Here is one possibility for John

1899/4847   Nicholson   John   71Y
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0tkg/

Added: Death notice
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0tkh/
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Re: Joseph Cotey and John Nicholson
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 April 13 03:56 BST (UK) »
I wonder if BAC3 has seen this information? It should be invaluable for their research.

I'll bring it to their attention.

Poor guys, a very long way from home.

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Joseph Cotey and John Nicholson
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 April 13 04:01 BST (UK) »
BAC3?
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Re: Joseph Cotey and John Nicholson
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 18 April 13 04:05 BST (UK) »
BAC3   .... has a thread currently running on the NZ board (re: Parkhurst Boys)   ;)

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