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Marriage: Isabella Murison b 1851 and George Smith
« on: Wednesday 24 April 13 11:16 BST (UK) »
Hi.

I am seeking information in relation of the possible marriage of Isabella Murison (sometimes Murrison) born around 1851 to a George Smith.

Isabella's sister Ann named one of her children George Smith Murison, and their double-illegitmate great-nephew was named Charles Smith Murison.

A reference to Isabella  marrying a George Smith seems to be the only connection to the name Smith entering the Murison line.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Marriage: Isabella Murison b 1851 and George Smith
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 April 13 17:17 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome

You don't appear to have anything definite to link to a marriage to a George Smith so it would be unwise to make that type of assumption based on childrens middle names

You would need to use Scotlands People to check for a marriage for Isabella but I would not use George Smith as a possible spouse when searching in case you are wrong about the marriage.

It is a pay per view website and you have to buy credits to view any documents although there is a free index

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

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Re: Marriage: Isabella Murison b 1851 and George Smith
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 April 13 17:30 BST (UK) »
You don't say where Isabella was born or which is the last census you have her on so the following info is guesswork

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTJZ-M8F

The 1871 shows Isabella was b Strichen around 1849

Also this entry

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XT2R-RPF
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Re: Marriage: Isabella Murison b 1851 and George Smith
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 April 13 23:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your response.

You are right about assumptions.  Even if the marriage to George is found there is still no clear connection to the use of Smith as a middle name. 

I've been looking on ScotlandsPeople where I have found other documents.  It's a great site, and the cost of documents is one tenth of local documents cost where I am. 

I am struggling to find the right Isabella from any source other than census records.

The last census record I have for her is 1871 aged 20 living with her parents at Talpabrae in Cluny parish, Cluny, Aberdeenshire.  It's possible she was born there as most of her younger siblings were.


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Re: Marriage: Isabella Murison b 1851 and George Smith
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 April 13 23:11 BST (UK) »
The 1871 shows her birthplace as Skene - Aberdeen

Surname shown as Murrison
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Re: Marriage: Isabella Murison b 1851 and George Smith
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 April 13 23:18 BST (UK) »
In 1861 the surname is Murrison and in 1881 - Isabella is Murrison aged 31 b Skene and is in service to the Ross family in Kincardine O'Neill

Kincardine Oneill ED 2 Page 14 Line 16

If her sisters children were born before 1881 then that blows your theory re: Smith marriage
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Re: Marriage: Isabella Murison b 1851 and George Smith
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 April 13 06:31 BST (UK) »
Oh, it's not my theory and I'm quite happy to see it shot down.

I think the whole George Smith link is entirely tenuous, if he existed at all.

I had seen that 1881 census reference, I think it was early on in my search and I wasn't quite convinced for some reason.  It does seem to be a reasonable match, and having become more familiar with the geography I now know Kincardine O'Neill is not that far from where the family lived.

The nephew is listed on the 1881 census as living with the grandmother Mary Murison as George Smith.  I'm not even sure how it has been determined his name was George Smith Murison.