Author Topic: Might i find details of the estate of a "lunatic" c 1830 in a public archive?  (Read 1651 times)

Offline hall and walsh

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I have a series of Belfast newspaper adverts 1820s- 1840 for the sale of property and land of an ancestor of mine from lurgan who was referred to in a very matter of fact manner as "a lunatic".   :-[   

As he was seen to be unfit to manage his estate is it likely or possible that it would have been managed or oversighted by a government agency? Or was this kind of thing managed by private lawyers?   Would records still be available?

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Walsh family - Listowel, Kerry; Alderney, Guernsey,  Adelaide Melbourne, New York Texas
Hall family - Toberhewney, Lurgan; Derryhoar, Tyrone; Melbourne, Australia, Quin, Clare
Downes family - Cahermurphy, Kilmihil, Clare, Adelaide Australia
Neville family - Shanagolden, Limerick, Dandenong, Victoria, Australia
Hanora Barrett - Shanagolden, Limerick, Geelong and Dandenong, Victoria, Australia

Lawry family - St Austell, Cornwall, Tasmania, Kalgoorlie, Riddells Creek Australia

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Re: Might i find details of the estate of a "lunatic" c 1830 in a public archive?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 May 13 10:24 BST (UK) »
See this guide on National Archives site-
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/mental-health.htm

Thanks very much for the link. The National Archives site seems to refer to asylums in England. If there is no reference to Ireland should I assume that there would be no records to be found about Armagh, or Belfast?

The site says that "Before the 1890 Lunacy Act, people of means had to make private arrangements for any lunatics in the family. Private madhouses were licensed by the justices of the peace, and were examined by several series of government commissioners. Records of private asylums are kept locally."

thank you!
Walsh family - Listowel, Kerry; Alderney, Guernsey,  Adelaide Melbourne, New York Texas
Hall family - Toberhewney, Lurgan; Derryhoar, Tyrone; Melbourne, Australia, Quin, Clare
Downes family - Cahermurphy, Kilmihil, Clare, Adelaide Australia
Neville family - Shanagolden, Limerick, Dandenong, Victoria, Australia
Hanora Barrett - Shanagolden, Limerick, Geelong and Dandenong, Victoria, Australia

Lawry family - St Austell, Cornwall, Tasmania, Kalgoorlie, Riddells Creek Australia

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Re: Might i find details of the estate of a "lunatic" c 1830 in a public archive?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 May 13 11:19 BST (UK) »
Ireland was part of the U.K. You need to read down further to 6. Property of lunatics and idiots - the role of Chancery, etc.

There was an 1871 Act for Ireland-
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1871/22/enacted

There are a list of earlier ones for Ireland in this list-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunacy_Act
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Re: Might i find details of the estate of a "lunatic" c 1830 in a public archive?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 May 13 12:03 BST (UK) »
Excellent!

Ireland was part of the U.K. You need to read down further to 6. Property of lunatics and idiots - the role of Chancery, etc.

There was an 1871 Act for Ireland-
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1871/22/enacted

There are a list of earlier ones for Ireland in this list-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunacy_Act
Walsh family - Listowel, Kerry; Alderney, Guernsey,  Adelaide Melbourne, New York Texas
Hall family - Toberhewney, Lurgan; Derryhoar, Tyrone; Melbourne, Australia, Quin, Clare
Downes family - Cahermurphy, Kilmihil, Clare, Adelaide Australia
Neville family - Shanagolden, Limerick, Dandenong, Victoria, Australia
Hanora Barrett - Shanagolden, Limerick, Geelong and Dandenong, Victoria, Australia

Lawry family - St Austell, Cornwall, Tasmania, Kalgoorlie, Riddells Creek Australia