Arthur Henry Chambers b1914, tracing back

[Glen in Tinsel Kni]

This all hangs on that marriage (at least iI can justify the cost of the cert now  )

1. Arthur Henry CHAMBERS. Born in 1914 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire.
 


Parents
 
2. Fred CHAMBERS. Born in 1877 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire. Fred died in Unknown.

In 1899, when Fred was 22, he married Ann FLINTHAM.
They had one child ...
    1     i.    Arthur Henry CHAMBERS (b.1914)
 
 
3. Ann FLINTHAM. Born on Mar 03 1879 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire.
 


Grandparents
 
4. James CHAMBERS.

In 1844, James married Mary Jane DALE.
They had one child ...
    2     i.    Fred CHAMBERS (b.1877)
 
 
5. Mary Jane DALE.
 
 
6. John FLINTHAM. Born in 1830.

In 1856, when John was 26, he married Betsy PLUMTREE.
They had one child ...
    3     i.    Ann FLINTHAM (b.1879)
 
 
7. Betsy PLUMTREE.
 


G Grandparents
 
8. Henry William CHAMBERS. Born in 1822 in Wragby, Limcolnshire.

Henry married Margaret GRANFIELD.
They had one child ...
    4     i.    James CHAMBERS ()
 
 
9. Margaret GRANFIELD.
 


GG Grandparents
 
16. George CHAMBERS. Born abt 1800 in Lincs.

On Feb 11 1822, when George was 22, he married Sophia ESPIN.
They had one child ...
    8     i.    Henry William CHAMBERS (b.1822)
 
 
17. Sophia ESPIN.
 

[Glen in Tinsel Kni]

I think you are on the right track because there is only one James Chambers c1848 showing in the censuses

1861 RG 9 Piece 2359 Folio 12 Page 18
St Mary Le Wigford
Henry Wm Chambers 38 brickmaker
Margaret Chambers   34
James G Chambers 13
Lucy Chambers   7
Mary Ann Chambers   5
Harriet Chambers 2
George Ed Chambers 9 Months

Margaret born Sheffield Yorkshire. All others born Lincoln

Middle name came about through mother's maiden name

Marriages Dec 1844   (>99%)
 
CHAMBERS    Henry William        Lincoln    14   833    
GRANFIELD    Margaret        Lincoln    14   833    

Name:    James Granfield Chambers
Gender:    Male
Christening Date:    23 Apr 1848
Christening Place:    St. John-Newport's, Lincoln, Lincoln, England
Birth Date:    04 Apr 1848

Father's Name:   Henry Chambers
   
Mother's Name:   Margaret

[crisane]

This birth reg then.
Births Jun 1/4 1848   
James Grandfield Chambers  Lincoln  vol 14 page 487

Now why didn't that show up the first time I searched I wonder?

[Geoff-E]

Buried together - both of Newland Street West (St Faith's)

James Granfield CHAMBERS (60) 25 March 1909
Mary Jane CHAMBERS (82) 26 May 1931

[Glen in Tinsel Kni]

Thanks all

I've stumbled across quite a bit for James Granfield Chambers over the years but as he never figured in my tree largely ignored it all (as you do), now just to get that cert and fingers crossed the parents fathers names will be what I hope to see.

Assuming it does then i've got 4 Chambers names at Wragby in a very small time frame, either two different lines or just a single one, as yet I can't tell for sure but both use similiar names for the kids so who knows, I would imagine they are connected either as siblings or cousins.

[Geoff-E]

This one?

12-Oct 1866 Lincoln St Mary le Wigford   
CHAMBERS   James Henry Granfield, son of Henry   
to
DALE    Mary Jane      dau of John   

[Geoff-E]

1881
Mary J CHAMBERS Wife Marr 32 Lincolnshire Conningsby

Same birthplace given 30 years later

[Glen in Tinsel Kni]

Assuming the cert tells me what I want to see the bride of the 1935 marriage traces back to John/Ann Chambers (married Langton by Wragby 1825), Ann bapt Langton 1797, John born Tattershall or Wragby c1800.

The groom goes back to George Chambers/Sophia Elphin, m.11th Feb 1822 at Wragby. Possible bapt of George 27 Jan 1796, Wragby, son of Henry Chambers and Frances.


Nothing is proved just yet but two families with the same surname, baptisms close both in terms of time and area, I would be more suprised to find they weren't connected somehow, maybe it's a generation or two away, maybe it's a lot closer but all I can do is get the cert for a start and take it from there.

They share so many names for the children too, including middle names at times, (usually Henry) based on some sketchy households I've put together, both lots also appear on Newland Street West and Hungate during census years too which is a pain in the bum at times but this line always has been.

[MargP]

Hi

Have you tried looking for Wills for any of them

I had the situation in my tree, with everyone name there children the same, I found Wills for my lot that sorted a lot of them out

Margp