Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford

[CarolRR]

To continue from the previous thread ... I am attempting to find and confirm the family of my maternal grandmother, Mary Ann Fisher.
I have decided that in order to discover her true identity, I need to reach out to the Hall relatives that are showing in my DNA matches, which I have now done.  God help me.
 
See previous topic-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,646926

[susan hemmings]

Bless you Carol. 

May be of some interest as you have decided to widen your search:

28th June 1892 - James Hall - imprisoned for 3 callendar months for being:  "An incorrigible rogue"
(Lincoln)

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[CarolRR]

In addition, I have a couple of "Potter's" (they share the same DNA maternal haplogroup as me) that are listed as '3rd cousins' on the DNA website, so I have written to them as well, seeking clarification.  Hopefully something will come of this.

[CarolRR]

It's amazing what comes to you while mulling things over in a steamy hot shower ...  I came rushing back here as I realize that factoring in the DNA test results, Harriet Fisher's mother must have been a Potter - Harriet Potter(?), married to George Fisher - although I'm not sure that these current DNA matches would be '3rd cousins'.  I got thrown off with James Hall's sister marrying a Potter.  This is taking me a generation further back then I want to go right now, but it would explain the match to the Potter's, which I can put aside for now.  I will run this past my Fisher match, who is happy to help sort through our connection.
As per the rap sheet of James Hall, 'rogue' is putting it lightly.
p.s.  Thank you Susan!

[iluleah]

Just keep in mind 'we are not our ancestors' good or bad  You may find they will be as horried as you with what you have found

[CarolRR]

iluleah, I have come to terms with that, which is what has allowed me to go beyond where I had originally intended - it's about 'acceptance', which is where I am, after having a few days to digest all of this.  The purpose of this whole exercise has been an attempt at discovering a lost identity and finding lost relatives, and roots - not about blaming those living for the mistakes of their forefathers.  It just means you have to stop every once in a while, take some deep breaths, regroup, and continue on, as my grandmother did before me.

[iluleah]

Oh I understand I have followed your thread and our ancestry is very personal to us.
I found myself 'liking' an ancestor of mine then as I found more I made a judgement and decided, they were not such a nice person ater all, 'your' ancestor is of the extreme kind, but without him you or your Grandmother would not have been here.........  for me her story shows what a wonderfully strong person she was.

Best wishes in your quest to find the truth

[Galium]

From the familysearch website:

Marriage at Ilkeston  18 October 1859
George Fisher bachelor age 22 s/o Thomas Fisher
Harriet Orme  spinster age 27 d/o John Orme

The ages tally with George and Harriet's ages on censuses.

Baptism at Ilkeston 22 April 1832
Harriet d/o John Orme and Sarah

[MargP]

Hi

Taken from the linked thread, gpixie post 136 Page 14

"Interestingly it says Mary J married two brothers; Samual Hall 1858 to 1891 and Arthur Hall born 1869 Riddings, Derbyshire. Samual and Arthur's father is listed as William and mother is Ann Froggatt."

If you look at the original 1901 census there is a Mary Ann Froggatt aged 41 b Shipley Derby, below Harriet Fisher

There are also 2 boys above Harriet, Joseph Froggatt aged 12 and John Froggatt aged 15 both born Shipley Derby

I am not sure if this relevant or just coincidental

Margp