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Evening all, im going round the bend trying to find My gt grandmother Lilly Peaker nee Morton.

Lilly born 1872 to Charles and Emma Morton, married James Arthur Peaker in 1893, Christ Church Leeds, they had numerous children from 1893 to 1906, just after this in 1908 we find that Lilly has left the family home and is unknown, upto the 1937 Electrol register in Leeds and her death in Leeds in 1941.

we have from her daughters barnardo file that Lilly apparently took up with a "Mr Boatman" after leaving the family home in Sept 1909 moving to 6 Fleece Lane, Medow Lane, then on  8th May 1913 they have left this place and went to Manchester with out daughter Minnie (Minnie went with her mum in 1909, but i have her marriage and her after 1913) - this info came from a long established friend from childhood of Lilly that lived at 6 Fleece Court. unfortunatly no name is supplied.

in the 1937 census Lilly is residing at 41 Black Bull Street, which had been her mothers home from 1901, her mother died in 1918 but appears on the 1923 electrol register, and sources from Leeds Library tell me it can be upto 5 years out as it took 5 years to complete. - but no Lilly Peaker on the 1923 electrol roll.

any help is greatly appreciated

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Names i am researching are: Riley, Peaker, Jones,Smith, Dobson, Ford, Humphries, Cross, Peckston, Power, Raby, Raper, Snipe Hulse, Whelan, Darling, Morton, Wild, Moss, Ibbotson, Grimes, Broadbelt, Jowett, Nicholson
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Re: Lilly Peaker nee Morton going round bend trying to find her please help
« Reply #1 on: Monday 15 August 16 21:35 BST (UK) »
So its been a few years and still trying to find my gt grandmother Lily Peaker, but i may have more information and would like some fresh eyes and opinions please.

i have re read the barnardos file, and think it was 8th May 1911 that it mentions Lily living at Fleece Lane, Meadow Lane. - it said 8th may last, and the date at the top was admitted 3rd July 1911.
i have looked on census of 1911 and found nothing, however i have found a William Batman living at 7 New Lane, Meadow Lane as inmate, now i believe this to be a church army lodgings, but can see no where on the records where it says so.

so could "Mr Boatman" be a transciption/pronunciation error and be Mr William Batman, or am i barking up wrong tree so to speak. the streets are next to each other too.

any help greatly appreciated

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Names i am researching are: Riley, Peaker, Jones,Smith, Dobson, Ford, Humphries, Cross, Peckston, Power, Raby, Raper, Snipe Hulse, Whelan, Darling, Morton, Wild, Moss, Ibbotson, Grimes, Broadbelt, Jowett, Nicholson
Areas of interest: Leeds, Castleford, Wakefield, Kent, Westham, Northumberland, Lancashire, Pontefract,  Flintshire, Liverpool

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Re: Lilly Peaker nee Morton going round bend trying to find her please help
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 August 16 22:39 BST (UK) »
William S Batman aged 89 died in 1934 as per freebmd
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Re: Lilly Peaker nee Morton going round bend trying to find her please help
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 August 16 22:41 BST (UK) »
1939 records shows a lily peaker at 2 Neville row leeds widowed (26 oct 1872 b)
and a willie Morton married grocers assistant (7 oct 1878 b )


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Re: Lilly Peaker nee Morton going round bend trying to find her please help
« Reply #4 on: Monday 15 August 16 22:51 BST (UK) »
Boatman could also be Bateman
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Re: Lilly Peaker nee Morton going round bend trying to find her please help
« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 August 16 22:55 BST (UK) »
Sorry i should of stated i had found Lily in 1939 with her nephew, she is also listed in the 1937 register at what was her mothers address and dies in Feb 1941, buried in Harehills. i just cannot place her in between especially at the time of my nana's younger years. in 1911, James the father dies in 1916 at Hunslet Workhouse, but the children, Nellie (my nana) and Beatrice were not with him, family tale was an aunt looked after them however i dont know which one. Charles dies in ww1 and Minnie is now where to be found until she marries in 1913.

what are your opinions on Batman been Boatman and vice versa?

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Names i am researching are: Riley, Peaker, Jones,Smith, Dobson, Ford, Humphries, Cross, Peckston, Power, Raby, Raper, Snipe Hulse, Whelan, Darling, Morton, Wild, Moss, Ibbotson, Grimes, Broadbelt, Jowett, Nicholson
Areas of interest: Leeds, Castleford, Wakefield, Kent, Westham, Northumberland, Lancashire, Pontefract,  Flintshire, Liverpool

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Re: Lilly Peaker nee Morton going round bend trying to find her please help
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 August 16 23:12 BST (UK) »
You are trying to find somebody during a period when there are very few records available unless you have more information.

Do the Barnado records mention Lily living with another man?  If not - what do they show as the reason for the children being placed there?

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Re: Lilly Peaker nee Morton going round bend trying to find her please help
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 August 16 23:46 BST (UK) »
This is a snippet of Elsie's file sent from Barnardo's

how i wish i could see the 1921 census for so many reasons .........

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Names i am researching are: Riley, Peaker, Jones,Smith, Dobson, Ford, Humphries, Cross, Peckston, Power, Raby, Raper, Snipe Hulse, Whelan, Darling, Morton, Wild, Moss, Ibbotson, Grimes, Broadbelt, Jowett, Nicholson
Areas of interest: Leeds, Castleford, Wakefield, Kent, Westham, Northumberland, Lancashire, Pontefract,  Flintshire, Liverpool

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Re: Lilly Peaker nee Morton going round bend trying to find her please help
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 August 16 14:02 BST (UK) »
I don't know if you have this snippet

Lily's son Charles Edwin who was killed in 1918, his effects where given to his grandmother Emma Morton, sole legatee