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Offline cranstone

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help finding please?
« on: Sunday 02 June 13 11:05 BST (UK) »
Hi

I am looking for further information on some ancestors and wondered if anyone could help me please?

The family I am looking for are called McKenzie.

In 1895 there was a Mrs J McKenzie at 35 Ardgowan Street - sorry I have no idea of ages etc.,

In 1890 there was a James McKenzie living in 14 Inchgreen Street, Greenock who had a son who died on the 7 March 1890 - no name given but I suspect he died when he was first born and that why he was given no name?

This is all I have and I wondered if anyone would be able to find out anything more on them or how long they lived at these addresses etc., please

I look forward to any help possible.

Kind regards and many thanks

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« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 June 13 11:39 BST (UK) »
I'd say your best starting point is http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk (Pay per view).

The death certificate of the child should show names of both parents.  From there, you can look for the marriage record of the parents which would give ages, place(s) of residence at that time and their parents details.

With that additional information, you will have much more success in looking for census records etc.

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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 June 13 11:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Cranstone

Are you sure it was a death in 1890? Looks like a birth (unless he also died on the same day?):

A son to Mr and Mrs James McKenzie, born at 14 Inchgreen Street, Greenock on 7th March 1890.
(Greenock Telegraph 7.3.1890)


The reference to 1895 does seem to be for a death:

Mrs J. McKenzie died at 35 Ardgowan Street, Port Glasgow on 10th September 1895 (Greenock
Telegraph 12.9.1895)


Both entries above are from www.inverclyde.gov.uk/education-and-learning/libraries/local-and-family-history/family-history/intimations

Just from general searches on SP, a 29 yr old Agnes McKenzie died in Port Glasgow in 1895. Only one other death showing that year in Port Glasgow for a female Mckenzie, as was over 60 years old.

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 June 13 11:48 BST (UK) »
A quick search on SP with the following parameters gives only 4 possible results.

Surname: m*ckenzie
Year range: 1890 - 1890
Birth Year: 1890 +/- 5 years
County: Renfrew

Narrowed down to Birth Year: 1890 +/- 1 year, it's still 4 results

Narrowed further to District: Greenock, there is only 1 result.

Strong chance that's the child you're looking for.

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FORREST (Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Stirlingshire and Dunbartonshire)
ROONEY (Co Down, Co Antrim) 
BORTHWICK, FORTUNE, BARKER, SIVES (Lothians)
ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness)


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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 June 13 11:52 BST (UK) »
There is this entry on the 1891 census in Port Glasgow that might connect:

James McKenzie 33 publican's assistant, b. Lochbroom R&C
Agnes McKenzie 28 b. Ladybarn (?), Renfrewshire
George McKenzie 1 b. Ladybarn, Renfrewshire...maybe connected to the 1890 birth notice?
Margaret McKenzie 2 b. Ladybarn, Renfrewshire
Helen McKenzie 64, mother, b. Lochbroom R&C

Address: No 3 Laird Street, Port Glasgow

These are only just possibilities, cranstone. Hard to add more without you checking some of the details to see how they may fit with what you are looking for...

Monica
    
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 June 13 12:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave and Monica

Many thanks for looking for me.

I got the information from the Greenock Telegraph some years ago.

I am looking for a married couple called James and Jessie McKenzie.

What I am told about them but haven't confirmed whether it is true or not is that he was a ship's engineer, they may have had no children but "adopted one or two" and may have come from Belfast but lived in Port Glasgow or Greenock.

The two  were living in streets that my other ancestors lived in so I wondered if I had found them as they were connected by family.

I didn't find a birth for the "son" just a death, so maybe he did die the same day?

Many thanks again for taking the time to look for me.

Kind regards

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 June 13 12:17 BST (UK) »
That mention from the Greenock Telegraph was for a birth:


A son to Mr and Mrs James McKenzie, born at 14 Inchgreen Street, Greenock on 7th March 1890.
(Greenock Telegraph 7.3.1890)



Cannot see a corresponding death that year for a child born in 1890 in Greenock or Port Glasgow. Looking at the birth entries on the Watt Library Intimations database, none of the children are named, just simply show as a daughter or son to Mr and Mrs.

From what you mention, likely these two entries are not connected to the James and Jessie you are searching for?

Monica
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