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Carlisle St Mary's Baptism - Jane Black 1828-31
« on: Monday 10 June 13 20:33 BST (UK) »
I'm struggling to find the baptism of my 2xGreat Grandmother Jane Black, daughter of James Black and I believe, Mary Robson.

According to census she was born some time between 1828 and 1831. 

In 1851 there is a Jane Black, a 21 year old servant working in the parish of Cargo and she was born in Carlisle. I cant be absolutely sure this Jane is my Jane.

In 1861 "my" Jane is 30 and Rockcliff is down as her place of birth. She is now Jane Percival and living in the parish of Netherby.

In 1871 she is 43 and "Saint Meries, Cumberland" is her place of birth.  At first, I assumed this would be the church St Mary's in Rockcliffe but there's no record under Rockcliffe baptisms for this period. Jane Percival is now living in South Bank, Yorkshire with her family.

I have also checked parish records for Kirklinton, Kirkandrews upon Esk and Arthuret but no luck.

So, I'm now wondering whether "Saint Meries" is the parish of St Mary's in Carlisle and would appreciate a lookup if anyone is visiting the Archives Office.

Many thanks.

Jones: Stockton, Durham,Maesmynis in Breconshire.
Laroche: Stockton on Tees; Liverpool; Quebec, Canada
Conick: Glamorgan
Trattles: NYorkshire
Jonathan: Caernarvonshire, Wales & Liverpool,
Briggs: Finghall & NYorks
Caygill: NYorks
Wright:Fylingdales
Binks: Finghall, NYorks
Brough: Staffordshire, Cheshire & Middlesbrough
Percival, Black, Tinning: Rockcliffe, Arthuret Cumberland
Bradley: Gilling & Barton, NYorks
Simpson, Bell, Latham: Liverpool, Lancashire

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Re: Carlisle St Mary's Baptism - Jane Black 1828-31
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 June 13 08:52 BST (UK) »
What is her father occupation on the marriage certificate?    That might help find them in 1841.

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Re: Carlisle St Mary's Baptism - Jane Black 1828-31
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 June 13 15:10 BST (UK) »
In 1841 I believe Jane is living in Kirkandrews upon Esk, 10 years old, with John Robson & Mary Robson (nee Tinning) and their son James Robson. 

As Mary Robson is also living with Jane (now Percival) in Netherby in 1861, I suspect, but I havent been able to prove yet, that John & Mary Robson are Jane's Grandparents. There are baptisms for two children belonging to John & Mary Robson - Betty 1802 & James 1804 both Arthuret but I am unable to find a baptism for a daughter Mary Robson.

From Jane's marriage certificate 12 Nov 1853 Rockcliffe to John Percival, her father James Black, is a labourer.

Here's where it gets complicated...

James Black & Mary Robson married in Gretna 9 Jun 1832 and also 26 Jan 1833 in Kirklinton.
Witnesses were James Robson and Sarah Tinning. These witnesses confirm that this Mary Robson is connected to the Mary & John Robson Jane is living with.

There is a James Black & Mary Black living in Kirklinton in 1841.  I suspect this James & Mary Black are Jane's parents.

By 1851 James & Mary Black are in Walton Le Dale, Lancashire with a family - John 8yrs born in Ellel, Lancashire, Betty A 5yrs born in Ashton, Lancs,  Mary 4 yrs born in Ashton, Lancs and Jane A 3 months born in Walton Le Dale.

In 1861 the family are in Condover, Shropshire with two new additions Margaret 8yrs born Walton, Lancs and Sarah 2yrs born Condover.

In 1871`& 1881  they are in St Mary Redcliffe, Gloucesterhire.

This is definitely James Black & Mary Robson as I sent for the birth certificate of one of their children and it confirmed mother's maiden name as Robson.

So, I am looking for
1) Jane Black's baptism which will hopefully confirm that Mary Robson is her mother  and my 3xGGM
2) Mary Robson's baptism (1812-1818 Arthuret/Longtown) which will hopefully confirm John & Mary Robson as her parents and  my 4xGreat Grandparents.

Hope this all makes some sense  ::)
Jones: Stockton, Durham,Maesmynis in Breconshire.
Laroche: Stockton on Tees; Liverpool; Quebec, Canada
Conick: Glamorgan
Trattles: NYorkshire
Jonathan: Caernarvonshire, Wales & Liverpool,
Briggs: Finghall & NYorks
Caygill: NYorks
Wright:Fylingdales
Binks: Finghall, NYorks
Brough: Staffordshire, Cheshire & Middlesbrough
Percival, Black, Tinning: Rockcliffe, Arthuret Cumberland
Bradley: Gilling & Barton, NYorks
Simpson, Bell, Latham: Liverpool, Lancashire