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Re: Death of William Jones, Victoria or South Australia
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 19 June 13 04:23 BST (UK) »
I would not be dismissing the 1860 death.  The age is obviously incorrect on the death registration.

The linked news item mentions that Wm who committed suicide was in the Peninsular Wars [c1808-1814] with the Duke of Wellington [ Iron Duke] and was in receipt of a pension and yet his death registration notes he was born c1812 ::).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Wellesley,_1st_Duke_of_Wellington

The mention of a wife and four children to Victoria should be considered.

Just my thoughts.

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Re: Death of William Jones, Victoria or South Australia
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 19 June 13 04:25 BST (UK) »
Bit confusing:-
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JONES William age 48yrs d. 18/11/1860
Status: N; Relative: (not recorded)
Residence: Adelaide; Death Place: Adelaide
District Code: Ade; Symbol: GS; Book: 9; Page: 196





Yet West Terrace Cemetery has same as Bisa:-
Name: Jones, William
 Date of Death: 19 November 1860
Age: 70
 Last Abode:
 Service Type: Burial

A discrepancy in 1 day, 18th or 19th - anything else in the deaths that may fit?

I know the S Symbol on the death record Merlin posted means that there is more information on the original record, what does the "G" symbol stand for?

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Re: Death of William Jones, Victoria or South Australia
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 19 June 13 04:31 BST (UK) »
Sashar the dates of death on the Adelaide Cemeteries Authority database are actually the dates of burial.

G. Age Guessed by Informant/Registrar

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Re: Death of William Jones, Victoria or South Australia
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 19 June 13 04:34 BST (UK) »
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On the Death cert. for Wife Mary, 2nd May 1871. It states that she was died at Rosemary Lane, Geelong, Victoria. Buried Geelong Cemetery 3rd May 1871.
It states that she spent 3 years in South Australia & 6 years in Victoria.

Years in Aus including each colony are obviously incorrect.  How could Mary have given birth in Vic in 1859 if she hadn't emigrated from England.  According to the death cert Mary emigrated c1862. ::)

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Re: Death of William Jones, Victoria or South Australia
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 19 June 13 04:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the great help.
I will have to look further into this death of William Jones.
I have noticed another mistake on Mary's death. It states that she was 16 years old when she married William Jones in 1841. But her birth date is 1822?

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Re: Death of William Jones, Victoria or South Australia
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 19 June 13 05:54 BST (UK) »
Looking at a copy of the original marriage cert of daughter Mary Ann in Victoria 1869. Next to name of father William Jones, there appears to be a two words scribbled out. The first one looks like "dead". I wonder if I got a copy from BDM it would show that he was dead?

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Re: Death of William Jones, Victoria or South Australia
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 19 June 13 08:12 BST (UK) »
If you have downloaded an image of the original marriage certificate why would you purchase another copy.  Why not post a snip of the area and we'll have a look at it.

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Re: Death of William Jones, Victoria or South Australia
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 19 June 13 08:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the great help.
I will have to look further into this death of William Jones.
I have noticed another mistake on Mary's death. It states that she was 16 years old when she married William Jones in 1841. But her birth date is 1822?

I rarely take information as correct from certificates.  Unfortunately people were not always honest with information on birth and marriage certs.  So many have errors especially death certificates after all the information is only as good as the knowledge of the informant.

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Re: Death of William Jones, Victoria or South Australia
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 19 June 13 08:18 BST (UK) »
The copy I have is from the original marriage cert from a family bible. I havent seen the original. I am thinking it has been removed by a family. Not the first that I have found to be altered. The family does nto mention the death of William Jones