George Burman: England to Canada 19th century

[BonnieDownUnder]

Hi Drop Bear, not to discourage your quest to find ggf and his ancestors but be cautious of family stories passed down through the generations as they do tend to become somewhat distorted over time. 

My family lore told of great uncle immigrating from England to Canada and that he died in his mid 20's during/just after WW1 travelling between UK/Canada or vice versa  ...  the 'Bermuda triangle' was also mooted as to where he disappeared.     They also gave me a photo of him attired in Navy uniform.

The only bit right of this tale was his immigration. I found he served in Canada, with the RAF, married there then changed the spelling of our surname slightly, year he was born (but not the date) and where born, moved into USA (illegally claiming to be an American citizen!) and lived to the ripe age of nearly 90 years.

So something similar could apply to your ggf, i.e. where and year born, surname spelling etc.,   
Good luck ... Bonnie

[Drop Bear]

Thanks for that Bonnie but I think that was meant for switzd (Dennis), its not my family, I was just trying to help 

[Eyesee]

1861 census
9 Union St, Clapham, Surrey
Susanna BURMAN, head wid 43, Laundress, born Middlesex, Shoreditch
Susanna BURMAN, dau unm 17, Laundress, born Surrey, Clapham
Frederick BURMAN, son unm 15, Office boy, born Surrey, Lambeth
George BURMAN, son unm 13, Scholar, born ditto
RG 9/369/45/11

Could be the George whose 1848 birth Bonnie posted.

Ian C

[sami]

I see that a birth of George Burman was listed Q4/1848 Lambeth, London. vol 4 page 28

Hi Dennis:

I'm late getting to this discussion but have enjoyed following everyone's comments. I was intrigued by the 1861 family listed by Ian C and followed them back a bit further. They were transcribed as 'Beerman' in 1861 and 'Boorman' in 1851.

1851 census (H)197 piece 1574 folio 409 page 10)
Susannah Boorman head widow 35 1816 Laundress Shoreditch, London
Francis Boorman son 13 1838 Lambeth Parish
Jonathan Boorman son 12 1839  Lambeth Parish
Richard Boorman son 8 1843 Lambeth Parish
Susanna Boorman daughter 6 1845 Lambeth Parish
Frie? Boorman son 4 1847 Lambeth Parish
George Boorman son 2 1849 Lambeth Parish
Charles Boorman son 7 mos 1851 Lambeth Parish
Rebecca Rickett visitor 56 1795 Laundress Herefordshire
Henry Young visitor 8 1843 St Lukes, London

There was a London marriage for a John Burman in 1844 and one of the female names listed was Susannah Lanceley.

.....then on the 1841 census

1841 census (HO107 piece 662 folio 3/19 page 311)
Charles Burman 43 1798 b Middlesex
John Burman 45 b 1796 Germany

So it looks like the birth registry found by Bonnie could be the right one for your George. But until you order the bc and get his parents correct names its all just speculation. That said, the connections were interesting and perhaps there was some truth to the story about his escape from Germany.

sami

[switzd]

Thank you all. I will pursue this line of inquiry further. Your dedication and help gives me renewed interest in breaking through this particular family brick wall. I will post results as I move forward.
Dennis

[switzd]

Just a followup. Birth Reg for the George Burman, suggested above, does not match the info on the Ontario death certificate. There is no father listed and DOB is 24 Oct 1848 not 1 Jul 1849 as on the death cert. But then the death cert. may have erroneous information.

The social circumstances fit: an unmarried mother living at the Princes Rd workhouse in Lambeth would certainly be circumstances that would set a person on the emigration road early in life.

[BonnieDownUnder]

Hi switzd ... disappointing that bc doesn't match dc but dc's can, as you say, be wrong.  I had a look at his death certificate again and it seems to me that the year shown for his birth was changed from 1849 to 1848?  or do I need new glasses 

By the way, you haven't mentioned any ages, place of birth, etc., on the certificate when George married so presume that these details aren't shown.

[sami]

Hi switzd:

That is disappointing 

Just for interest sake though - what was the mother's name on that birth cert?

sami

[switzd]

Hi:
The mother's name was Caroline Burman.

Bonnie, I too have had difficulty deciding if the dc is 1848 or 1849. It does state he was 90 and he died 20 Feb 1938 with 01 Jul as birthday so it would be 1848 as birth year.

Another confounding "fact" is the 1901 Canadian census states he was born in Ontario . Older family members have dismissed this and I have not located any Ontario registration. I do know both my grandmother and grandfather were dissenters (Methodist) as were great grandparents as listed on census material.

Ah well the search goes on