Luke Family Coneysthorpe 1836-1855

[clive23]

Hi to all being my first posting I hope you will excuse any mistakes.

I am researching my family tree and done not too bad so far but coming a bit unstuck in one area.

If I can list so far what I have found out:

John Luke b Scotland assume 1807 M Eliza Smith 1836 Malton

Children:Wallace Luke b 1841, Mary Ella Luke b 1839, John Luke b 1845, David Smith Luke b 1846
Horatio Luke b 1848, Alexander Luke b 1853. All born in Coneysthorpe.

I have the 1841 Census which I am ok on.

John Luke Farther was a Forester ( I am assuming Castle Howard)

John Luke (Son) is who I am trying to follow he at the age of 16 (I believe) went to Castle Howard as a Gardener / Journeyman 1861 Census for Henderskelfe Parish in lodgings with George Sutherland (Master Gardener) again suspect Castle Howard.

I can not see or get details if John Luke (son) continues on at Castle Howard in further Censuses or get married etc. This is my area of interest.

If any details of the children can be obtained that would be a bonus. I am related to Wallace Luke which is a son of John Luke (Father) so I am ok on that person.

Many thanks if I can have some info.

Clive

[KGarrad]

Welcome to RootsChat!

I think John (jnr) became a sailor?

1871 census: Class: RG10; Piece: 3775; Folio: 94; Page: 3
Sailors Hom28 Canning Place, Liverpool

Luke, John  Boarder  M  26  Mercantile Navy, 2nd Mate  b York


And to reinforce my thoughts!
Certificate of Competency as Second Mate
to John Luke, 8th August 1868

Address: 56 Latham Street, Sunderland
Born 7th August 1844, at Coneysthorpe, Yorkshire

[Ladyhawk]

I was about to post the same question about John

1871c RG10; Piece: 3775; Folio: 94; Page: 3
John Luke boarder  1845 Yorkshire Sailor Home

Here's some censuses of his siblings

1861 RG 9; Piece: 3628; Folio: 28; Page: 15
Mary SMITH widow 86
Elizabeth LUKE dau widow  46
Mary Luke gd/gau 22
Wallace Jas gd.son20
David Smith Luke gd.son 15
Horatio gd/son 13
Alexander gd/son 8

1871 RG10; Piece: 4827; Folio: 26; Page: 13
Coneythorpe
Eliza Luke Wid 56 Annuitant,
Mary ELLA Wid 32,
Horatio 23 Gardener
Alexander 18 Joiner’s appr.

Dec 1865 Malton
Mary LUKE
Name on same page
Samuel ELLA

1871 RG10; Piece: 234; Folio: 44; Page: 12
170 & 168 Gt College St St Pancras London
David Luke 1846 Yorkshire  assistant (pawnbrokers)

1881 RG11; Piece: 4285; Folio: 58; Page: 33
10 Harley St Barrow in Furness
David S Luke 35 Malton Coneysthorpe Yorkshire oc Jeweller & Clothier
Harriet 32 Dover Kent
David F 7 Barrow lancashire
Percy S 3
Maria E 1

1891 RG12; Piece: 3478; Folio: 24; Page: 15
Leece Ulverton Lancashire
David S Luke 45 Pawnbroker (Unemployed) Harriet 44
David Francis 17, Percy Smith 13, Maria Ella 11, May Eliza 6 & Wallace Charles 2

David Smith Luke age 54
Apr-May-Jun 1900 Barrow-in-Furness
Volume:   8e page 632

1901 RG13; Piece: 4010; Folio: 123; Page: 47
8 Roper Street
Harriet Luke widow 5 3
David F 27 Barman in Hotel, Percy S 23  ship fitter , Maria E 21, Mary E 16, Wallace C 12

1881 RG11; Piece: 4814; Folio: 24; Page: 7
Alexander Luke Carpenter
Elizabeth 30 Sheerness Kent

Mar 1881 Malton vol 9d page 432
Alexander LUKE
Name on same page
Elizabeth JOHNSON

1891 RG12; Piece: 3976; Folio: 31; Page: 8
Alexander & Elizabeth have 5 children
Horatio 9 Coneythorpe ,Alexander 7, C John 6, E David 4 & E Mary 1

1901 Londesborough
4 children still at home with Alexander & Elizabeth
Alexander Luke 17 Carpertner’s Appr., Claude 16 Carpertner’s app., Ernest 14 & Mary 11

[KGarrad]

According to his Seaman's Certificate (available on Ancestry):

He started his marine career, 25th March 1862  aboard the "Ada", of Sunderland.

[Ladyhawk]

I have the 1841 Census which I am ok on.

John Luke Father was a Forester ( I am assuming Castle Howard)

John Luke (Son) is who I am trying to follow he at the age of 16 (I believe) went to Castle Howard as a Gardener / Journeyman

1861 Census for Henderskelfe Parish in lodgings with George Sutherland (Master Gardener) again suspect Castle Howard.

Where does  the John Luke b1815 lodging with George Sutherland fit in with your Luke family?

1861 census RG 9; Piece: 3628; Folio: 22; Page: 4

John Luke  age 46 born c1815 Coneythorpe  Single apprentice dittoed as journeyman/gardener

Amended

John's age appears to be 16 so born c 1845

[clive23]

Thank You all for such a fast and helpful replies.

Ladyhawk the only bit I do not understand is the Begining of your mail. RG10 1845 John Luke Boarder in 1845 John Luke (son) was born in 1845 and John Luke (farther) was Forester.

Then you go on too Siblings of which John Luke (father)(died 1856) was married to Eliza Smith but not on your details I see a Mary Smith widow of 86 which could be Eliza's mother.


Thank You all

[Ladyhawk]

T
Ladyhawk the only bit I do not understand is the Begining of your mail.
RG10 1845 John Luke Boarder in 1845 John Luke (son) was born in 1845 and John Luke (farther) was Forester.

The RG10  is the census reference below is the transcript 1871c
Name: John Luke
Age:   26
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1845
Relation:   Boarder
Gender:   Male
Where born:   Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:   Liverpool

if you look at the the original census the page headings are as follows
name: John Luke
relation to head of family or (2) position in the institution: Boarder
condition: single
male: age 26
rank profession or occupation: Mercantile Navy 2nd Mate
Where born: York

[Ladyhawk]

John Luke (father)(died 1856) was married to Eliza Smith
but not on your details I see a Mary Smith widow of 86 which could be Eliza's mother.

Elizabeth probably moved in with her mother when she became widowed 1856
 - her mother is noted as blind on the 1861 census

RG 9; Piece: 3628; Folio: 28; Page: 15
Mary SMITH widow 86 Henderskelf
Elizabeth LUKE dau widow  46
Mary Luke gd/gau 22
Wallace Jas gd.son20
David Smith Luke gd.son 15
Horatio 13
Alexander 8

here's her mother Mary on 1851 census

HO107; Piece: 2369; Folio: 699; Page: 15 - Corneythrope
Mary Smith widow 76 Henderskelf Annuitant
Eliza Lucy Smith granddau 18 Lambeth Surrey

[clive23]

Ladyhawk,

Understand all now. Many thanks for your help.
It appears that the ship Ada was lost in 1877.
How do you find out if he did?


Thanks for all your help.


Clive