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Looking for "Charlie"
« on: Saturday 29 June 13 06:35 BST (UK) »
Charles Allen Firth, born Pilliga N.S.W.
Not much info about Charlie and am not even sure of his date of birth, the only records we have are ...
Private in the Otago Infantry Battalion D Company..
11263 Firth Charles Allen.  Occupation shearer. Next of Kin Mrs Maggie Firth (mother) Pilliga. N.S.W.
We also have a casualty form - active service which reads as follows.

Regiment D Coy 12th Rfts
Reg nbr 8/4329 (then in pencil alongside 11263) Rank Pvt Name - Firth Charles Allen
Enlisted 13.1.16 Terms of service - 13.1.16 Service reckons from 13.1.16

1/5/16 Embarked on Ulimaroa. Wellington N.Z. 1/5/16 to Suez
Then to Tel-el-Kehr 17.7.16
Record goes through various stages  and he ends up with renal colic at Heliopolis 19/5/19

Problem is  ??? we have no idea what happened to Charlie after this...is it likely he would have been de-mobbed in N.Z. if so would there be a record of his return to Australia..we have no idea, we do know he was of Aboriginal extraction and he had gone to N.Z. shearing ? after that..NOTHING
Can anyone help with this please as I am at an absolute loss on this one.
All help much appreciated.
I am doing this for a friend and he has provided me with what he knows..not much....he has records of other relatives who also fought in the 14-18 war, one being noted as the first aboriginal killed in that conflict...trying to fill in gaps on his family tree.

Thanks for any help
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Re: Looking for "Charlie"
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 29 June 13 06:57 BST (UK) »
Hi

He appears on NZ Electoral rolls (twice) in 1919.

1919 - Auckland East roll

FIRTH - Charles Allen - 25 Manukau Road - occ. shearer


1919 - Manawatu-Wanganui  supplementary roll

FIRTH - Charles Allen - Taihape - occupation, shearer

[Note:  It would seem he has moved from Auckland to the Taihape area sometime just prior to the general election (hence being listed on the supplementary roll).]

Sorry, not able to check at present whether there is a death in NZ for him (our BDM site is undergoing maintentance currently).

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Re: Looking for "Charlie"
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 29 June 13 07:59 BST (UK) »
Charles Allen Firth, born Pilliga N.S.W.
Not much info about Charlie and am not even sure of his date of birth.


His WW1 digitised record on Archives give his birth as 21st & 26th August 1884.


http://www.rootschat.com/links/0fdf/

I can't see anything on the Burial Locator for him.

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KHP
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Re: Looking for "Charlie"
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 29 June 13 08:17 BST (UK) »
Hello,

His WW1 file states he was invalided to NZ(mental degeneration)  7/1/1918
Dies of sickness NSW's 9/9/1944.

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Re: Looking for "Charlie"
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 29 June 13 08:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Patvp

*   Do you know anything of Charles Allen FIRTH's mother, Maggie.

I'd searched Australian records earlier including Electoral rolls, and in 1930 arrived at a "Charles Alfred Allen FIRTH residing NSW - Gwydir - Pilliga" ?

The death of this man occurred in NSW (reg. Narrabri) in 1944 - parents names given as Patrick and Catherine. ???

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Re: Looking for "Charlie"
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 29 June 13 08:43 BST (UK) »
Australian Births

Charles A. FIRTH
1883
Parents:  Patrick and Catherine W.
Reg. at :  Narrabri, NSW



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Re: Looking for "Charlie"
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 29 June 13 08:48 BST (UK) »

I'd searched Australian records earlier including Electoral rolls, and in 1930 arrived at a "Charles Alfred Allen FIRTH residing NSW - Gwydir - Pilliga" ?

  ~  Lu

I saw that as well Lu, and his occupation was a Shearer.   There is a Private Tree on Ancestry and Mundia for the abovenamed.

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 29 June 13 09:05 BST (UK) »
Hi KHP

Yes, listed (1930) as Charles Alfred Allan FIRTH - Pilliga - occ. shearer

... and also at Pilliga >

Catherine Winnifred FIRTH - nurse
Patrick FIRTH - labourer

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Re: Looking for "Charlie"
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 29 June 13 09:15 BST (UK) »
Mmmm ... possibly the same Charles, in Queensland 1913 ??

1913 - Queensland - Mararoa - Mitchell

FIRTH - Charles Allen - Hotel Richards, Mitchell - occ. shearer