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Re: Hyams family in Melbourne
« Reply #27 on: Monday 01 July 13 20:36 BST (UK) »
The West Australian (Perth, WA : 1879 - 1954)
Monday 27 July 1931

 FREEDMAN. — On Jnly 26, 1931, at Newcastle, N.S.W., Hannah Freedman, relict of the late B. Freedman and loving mother of Ray (Mrs. Rotenberg), Phinias (Newcastle), Simmy 9deceased), Joe (Melbourne) and Julius (deceased). Minyan every evening at the  Synagogue.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/32360923?searchTerm=%22hannah%20freedman%22&searchLimits=exactPhrase=hannah+freedman

NSW death index
12609/1931    
FREEDMAN    HANNAH    
father SAMUEL    
86 YRS MAYFIELD    
District MAYFIELD

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Re: Hyams family in Melbourne
« Reply #28 on: Monday 01 July 13 23:23 BST (UK) »
Hannah's death notice [post #27] states a "Mrs. Rotenberg" as one of the children.

I found this

The West Australian (Perth, WA : 1879 - 1954)
Wednesday 8 January 1913
FREEDMAN..-On January 5, at 33 Pepys-road. New Cross Gate, London, B. Freedman, be loved father of Mrs..I. Rotenberg. (By cable.) - Minyon every evening at 7.30 o'clock at 106 James-street, Perth


Deaths Mar 1913
Freedman    Barnett   age  65    Marylebone    volume 1a   page 740
The above death index is from Free BMD
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Re: Hyams family in Melbourne
« Reply #29 on: Monday 01 July 13 23:42 BST (UK) »
Well-found giblet  :)

Rachel and Isaac Rotenberg burial http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KB00058577 and http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KB00111559

Death notice for Isaac in 1938 gives the children http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article34964006

W.A. BDM http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx gives death of Rachel

ROTENBERG Rachel Rebecca female 91, father Barnett and mother Hannah reg#695



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Re: Hyams family in Melbourne
« Reply #30 on: Monday 01 July 13 23:46 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ros  :)

Looks like the arrival of some of the family.

Index to Unassisted Inward Passenger Lists to Victoria 1852-1923
Arrived on the Salier February 1890
FREEDMAN    ANNIE    40 [I assume this is the mother Hannah??]   
FREEDMAN    JOSEPH    10    
FREEDMAN    JULIUS    8    
FREEDMAN    PHINEAS    20


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Re: Hyams family in Melbourne
« Reply #31 on: Monday 01 July 13 23:56 BST (UK) »
Hannah must have used Annie and Hannah, her death notice says Hannah and Phineas is noted as a child of hers.

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21595/1947    FREEDMAN    PHINEAS    BARNET JOSEPH    ANNIE    MAYFIELD

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Re: Hyams family in Melbourne
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 02 July 13 00:34 BST (UK) »
1881 UK census

Barnett Freedman    33 born Wales about 1848
Anne Freedman    31 born Poland about 1850
Rachel Freedman    13 born Wales
Sampson Freedman    11 born Wales
Phineas Freedman    9 born Wales
Dora P. Freedman    1 born Wales

Barnet is noted as a Picture Frame Manufacturer Employs 6 Men & 1 Boy

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Re: Hyams family in Melbourne
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 02 July 13 01:39 BST (UK) »
Sandgate Cemetery (one of the cemeteries near Newcastle) has photos of graves online. http://www.sandgatecemetery.org.au/

There is one for Hannah Freedman buried 27/7/1931 http://www.sandgatecemetery.org.au/index.php/our-records/undertake-a-search/article/7221879-freedman  (rather worn and hard to read  :()

Betsy and Bernard David Freedman are also there and may belong to famiy - can cross-check on NSW BDM to see who parents were.

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Re: Hyams family in Melbourne
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 02 July 13 02:27 BST (UK) »
Funeral notice for Phineas Freedman SMH  4 July 1947

 FREEDMAN-The Relatives and Friends of Mrs Lucy Freedman and Family are
Invited to attend the Funeral of their late beloved Husband,Father, Father-In-Law and
Grandfather respectively PHINEAS FREEDMAN of 51 Alfred Street Waratah Newcastle to move from the Funeral Parlours 223 Maitland Road Mayfield This Afternoon at 1 o clock for Beresfield Crematorium
Buses In attendance No flowers by request
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18033519

Death notice for his wife SMH Feb 6 1950
FREEDMAN Lucy Vincent -February 5 195O at her residence 51 Alfred Street Waratah relict of Phineas Freedman beloved mother of Simeon,Wallace, Rae (Mrs Drinan) Frank and Joseph
In her 75th year
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18144665

adding : and Bernard David Freedman at Sandgate cemetery is listed on BDM with parents Phineas and Lucy

adding : and according to electoral rolls Phineas was a photo frame manufacturer so the trade has been carried on :)
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« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 02 July 13 02:51 BST (UK) »
According to Ryerson Index http://ryersonindex.net/search.php (index of recent death notices)

Simeon Hobart Freedman died in February 1997 and death notices in Newcastle Herald on 18 and 19 Feb

Francis Phineas Freedman died 9 July 1990 aged 79 at Newcastle and death notice in SMH 10 July 1990
Death Notice says FREEDMAN Francis Phineas (Frank) -- July 9,1990 at Newcastle, aged 79 years. At rest.

Barnett Joseph Freedman (Joe) funeral on 16 April 2010 aged 89 late of Yamba and formerly of Merewether

From NSW BDM Rachel Clifton Drinan died in 1981 with parents Phineas Myer and mother Lucy reg 101328/1981
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