The Marriages of William Kerr

[macbun]

Hello.
Can anyone help me or guide me to the right place for this information.
I am trying to locate the maiden name and date /location of the marriage of the Rebecca Jane Kerr who was married to William Kerr. Jane is shown as being from Donegal.
She appears in both censuses.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Lower_Liberties/Ballynagollagh/1538308/
AND
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Liberties__Lower/Ballynagalliagh/604512/.
I know that there are children associated to the address, one being Catherine Simpson (nee Kerr), she doesn’t shown up anywhere. The census in 1911 shows that there were  no children associated to the marriage, which leads me to believe that William was married previously, and it’s that marriage that I believe children have come from.
Is there anyway of locating who / when / where  William was married to the first time around, although we don’t have the brides details.

Thanks as always

[aghadowey]

According to the 1911 census William & Rebecca were married 20 years (c1891). Since daughter Hessie is 15 in 1901 she's not likely to be their daughter.

One possibility-
William Kerr, Oct./Dec.1891 Londonderry Registration District, volume 2 page 129
Rebecca Jane Long on same page

[gaffy]

There's also a marriage of a William Kerr to a Jane Long in 1872:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYSS-KM4

The reason I mention it is that playing around with the RootsIreland index eventually brought back the civil birth hit for Hessie under William Kerr and Jane Long (1884). It's pay to view.

So it could be that William married Jane Long in 1872, then Rebecca Jane Long in 1891.

Edited to add: the RootsIreland index brought back 5 other hits (besides Hessie) for children to William Kerr and Jane Long dating from 1873 to 1882, you can have a look at these, but as mentioned, you have to pay to go into the records that the index brings back in order to see the record detail. Familysearch carries 3 of them - Elizabeth (1873), Sarah (1875), and David (1878):

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGC9-BPJ
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGYX-ZLN
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGXL-7YM

[gaffy]

As a by the way, there's a marriage of a David Simpson to a Lily Kerr in 1904 and children for his full name and mother's maiden surname include William Simpson 1905 and Jane Kerr Simpson 1907, my guess is that these are the two grandchildren living with William and Rebecca Jane Kerr in the 1911 census.
 
No sign of father David Simpson in 1911, but could this be the mother Lily (Elizabeth? Though the age is quite a bit out, the marriage and no. of children fit):

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_Urban__4_/Harvey_Street/603357/
   

[macbun]

Dear aghadowey and gaffy.

Thank you so much as usual for all your hard work in helping me. Very much appreciated. You have really given me more information to ponder

Gaffy, could I just ask you, you mention five children relating to the marriage of William Kerr and Jane Long in 1872
Elizabeth (1873), Sarah (1875), and David (1878)
Hessie (as mentioned in my post) would you have a dob for her.?
And would you have a name / dob for the fifth child, name not mentioned previously.
If it’s a Catherine (Cassie) or Jane / Jeannie (or variation) it would confirm that I am on the right branch of the tree.
Thanks again in advance.

[gaffy]

The DOB for Hessie is in the RootsIreland record which is pay to view.

There are 5 other children besides Hessie (ie. 6 in total) shown in the index against William Kerrr and Jane Long, in short:

Elizabeth 1873, Sarah 1875, David 1878, William 1879, Elizabeth 1882, Hessie 1884

Elizabeth 1882 could suggest that Elizabeth 1873 died early.  I was thinking of Elizabeth 1873 when I posted about the age of Elizabeth Simpson (Harvey St., 1911 census) being "quite a bit out", it was probably Elizabeth 1882 that married David Simpson (not spot on, but a lot closer).

[macbun]

gaffy.
thanks for all that information. Sad to say I am begining to think that this is not part of my tree.
All the best

[gaffy]

gaffy.
thanks for all that information. Sad to say I am begining to think that this is not part of my tree.
All the best

Another possibility eliminated is a step forward in my book!