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Shittlehope Burn Farm *COMPLETED*
« on: Wednesday 10 July 13 02:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Forum,
Would any local people of the Stanhope area know the history of Shittlehope Burn Farm. My great grandparents and grandmother lived there around 1908-10 before grandmother left for Aust. Have attached photos.
Bell (Allendale/Stanhope), Forrest (Allendale/Stanhope/Hartlepool), Price(Edmondbyers/Stanhope) Pattinson (Weardale), Coulthard, Martindale, Winter (Stanhope) Cowen (Carlisle), Chant (Somerset & Australia) Jolly (Cornwall) Stokes (Somerset) Reed (Allendale NBL)

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Re: Shittlehope Burn Farm
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 July 13 03:29 BST (UK) »
Well, it shows up on a map from 1856-1865: http://gis.durham.gov.uk/website/interMAP/viewer.htm
There must be some earlier ones somewhere.

If you don't have any luck with your request here, a local history society may be able to help you(Stanhope possibly?)  :-\

What was the surname of your family and do you know how long they lived there? eg have you found them living there in the censuses?

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Re: Shittlehope Burn Farm
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 July 13 04:58 BST (UK) »
The surname is Forrest (John & Mary) Their time at the farm would have been after, 1901 as they were there for the 1911 census.
Bell (Allendale/Stanhope), Forrest (Allendale/Stanhope/Hartlepool), Price(Edmondbyers/Stanhope) Pattinson (Weardale), Coulthard, Martindale, Winter (Stanhope) Cowen (Carlisle), Chant (Somerset & Australia) Jolly (Cornwall) Stokes (Somerset) Reed (Allendale NBL)

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Re: Shittlehope Burn Farm
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 11 July 13 04:55 BST (UK) »
So your family were elsewhere in the 1901 census?

Is there anything specific you would like to find out about the farm? Previous owners? When built? Something else?

I believe there are ways of researching the history of a house, presumably via deeds, sales, tithe records perhaps(?), but I'm afraid I can't help with the specifics. Someone else may know though.


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Re: Shittlehope Burn Farm
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 11 July 13 23:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ruskie....not sure if g/grandfather rented or owned the farm ..... I suppose if someone happens to know or where to look for the history of its owners/occupiers it would be great.

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Bell (Allendale/Stanhope), Forrest (Allendale/Stanhope/Hartlepool), Price(Edmondbyers/Stanhope) Pattinson (Weardale), Coulthard, Martindale, Winter (Stanhope) Cowen (Carlisle), Chant (Somerset & Australia) Jolly (Cornwall) Stokes (Somerset) Reed (Allendale NBL)

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Re: Shittlehope Burn Farm
« Reply #5 on: Friday 12 July 13 00:55 BST (UK) »
I think that if using FindMyPast, there is the ability to search via address, so perhaps someone will be kind enough to look up the farm address in earlier censuses to see who is living there.

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Re: Shittlehope Burn Farm
« Reply #6 on: Friday 12 July 13 01:40 BST (UK) »
They are in "Shittlehope Burn" in 1901:

John Forrest 53 farmer on own account b Hexham Northumberland
Mary Forrest 55 also b Hexham
Sarah Forrest 24
George Forrest 21
Emma Forrest 19
Maria Forrest 16
Albert Forrest 12 grandson
Mary H Wilkinson 4 grandaur
(all children b Stanhope)
RG13/ Piece 4660/ Folio 35/ Page 12

Address not given specifically as "Shittlehope Burn Farm", but there are a couple of other families living at same address (quarrymen) so perhaps your family were living at the farm, with the other families lving in farm buildings at same address.  :-\

Unsure if John's occupation as "farmer on own account" means that he owns or rents the farm. Someone else may know.  :)

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Re: Shittlehope Burn Farm
« Reply #7 on: Friday 12 July 13 01:48 BST (UK) »
In 1891 their address is Wards Villa Stanhope:

John Forrest 43 Farmer b Allendale Town Northumberland
Mary Forrest 45
Hannah Forrest 20 farmer's daur
John William Forrest 18 limestone quarryman
Sarah Ann Forrest 14
George Forrest 11
Emma Forrest 9
Thomas Forrest 7
Maria Forrest 6
Albert Forrest 2 grandson
(all children b Stanhope)
Class: RG12; Piece: 4084; Folio: 107; Page: 3; GSU
 
And in 1881 the family the address is Thimbleby Hill. John is a labourer b Allendale. You can look this one up yourself for free if you haven't already done so.  :)

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Re: Shittlehope Burn Farm
« Reply #8 on: Friday 12 July 13 02:31 BST (UK) »
Thanks again Ruskie....yes I have those census...it was an oversight on my part re 1901. Are you able to find who was there at the farm in 1861 and 71?

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Max
Bell (Allendale/Stanhope), Forrest (Allendale/Stanhope/Hartlepool), Price(Edmondbyers/Stanhope) Pattinson (Weardale), Coulthard, Martindale, Winter (Stanhope) Cowen (Carlisle), Chant (Somerset & Australia) Jolly (Cornwall) Stokes (Somerset) Reed (Allendale NBL)